I am partial to the 870 as I have seen them take a tremendous beating on the catwalks at the prison I used to work at. Bawanna brought up a very good point about the tang safety and the pistol grip stocks. Both are very good shotguns with a ton of options for either.
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Before you buy, just check out the IAC hawk http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/product/GUN-981 I have an old 1964 870 LE wingmaster, and purchased the IAC after reeding all the good reviews. It is an 870 clone and it is every bit as sturdy and wll built as the 870, and takes 870 accessories. I don't have a pic but I got the gun, knox recoil reducing stock, and verticle foregrip with laser and light for the cost of a stock 870. I couldn't be happier with the gun.
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My 2 cents.
I have a rem 870. Never a hiccup never a problem. I put a speed safety on mine. I like it a lot. Just finished a combat gun class which had some shotgun work in it. I was just thinking what a workhorse that 870 is.I am the Living Man
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I prefer the Mossberg. I like having the safety on the top where it's in plain site. Just my preference. For HD I also like the 20 Ga with #3 buck.
I've had this Mossberg Cruiser protecting my home and family 24/7/365 for almost 16 years. I shoot it about every 6 months or so to recycle the ammo that's in it. It has never failed to fire chamber or eject a round. The LED light on the end of the barrel is a light/laser combo that has a pressure switch on it. It's enough to temporarily blind a person it the dark. That thing is beyond bright. It doesn't take a lot of aiming when woken out of a sound sleep in the middle of the night. It very easy to see where the round is going to go between the bright white light and the red laser dot should I decide to pull the trigger. There's just something about 20 .25dia .053 oz pellets coming out of the end of the barrel at about 1100 fps that really appeals to me.
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Originally posted by muggsy View PostBuy a shotgun! Buy a shotgun! Who do I sound like?
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I have have had both - the 870 is the one I have left. The safety is poorly located compared to the Mossberg for me as mentioned. I would try to find an 80's version of either shotgun. The later Mossberg's used plastic in trigger group and the part failed - not sure if they still do or not. I have a Winchester 1897 trench shotgun for my indoors protection - http://www.winchestercollector.org/guns/1897shot.shtml - I like the hammer, bayonet lug, barrel shroud and the fact if you hold the trigger back it will fire as fast as you can pump.
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Originally posted by zamboni View Post..... I have an old 1964 870 LE wingmaster.....
now, THAT is a real 870 worth having!
Personally, I don't care for pistol grips on a shotgun so the tang safety just "fits" me better. For that matter, I really don't see much need in hanging a bunch of stuff all over the gun either, whether it's a HD gun, SD gun or hunting gun. I figure if you can pop a 30 mph dove outa the air at 30-40 yards with the gun, box stock, you can hit a boogie man sized target. But, my guns are all "multi-purpose" in some way or another. Actually, after many years of bird hunting and trying several thousand dollars worth of bird guns, I've found my favorite in an inexpensive Mossberg 500 Bantam 20 ga. Shorter LOP, which makes it quite fast to the shoulder, and even with a bit longer barrel the OAL is very close to standard 870 or 500 tactical guns. Never thought I'd pick a 20 over a 12 in anything, but that little shotty along with an old Marlin 336 .30-30, and a simple .357 SP101 have become my "old man" picks.
Instead of playing Barbie with my guns and dressing them up, I've tended to trade and swap until I find what fits ... then customize them with honest bumps, bruises and scratches and try my best to wear them out.
That's just my M.O., but then again I'll be 60 in another few short months which makes me almost as old as Jocko was back when he was 60.
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This is me nearly to a T as well. I don't know how many officers have brought me shotguns and a box of Barbie accessories to install. Usually after one range trip they want most of it taken off. Same thing with AR's too. Everything but the kitchen sink hanging on the gun, makes em tough to clean, 3 times heavier than they need to be and just a general pain.Originally posted by mr surveyor View Postnow, THAT is a real 870 worth having!
Personally, I don't care for pistol grips on a shotgun so the tang safety just "fits" me better. For that matter, I really don't see much need in hanging a bunch of stuff all over the gun either, whether it's a HD gun, SD gun or hunting gun. I figure if you can pop a 30 mph dove outa the air at 30-40 yards with the gun, box stock, you can hit a boogie man sized target. But, my guns are all "multi-purpose" in some way or another. Actually, after many years of bird hunting and trying several thousand dollars worth of bird guns, I've found my favorite in an inexpensive Mossberg 500 Bantam 20 ga. Shorter LOP, which makes it quite fast to the shoulder, and even with a bit longer barrel the OAL is very close to standard 870 or 500 tactical guns. Never thought I'd pick a 20 over a 12 in anything, but that little shotty along with an old Marlin 336 .30-30, and a simple .357 SP101 have become my "old man" picks.
Instead of playing Barbie with my guns and dressing them up, I've tended to trade and swap until I find what fits ... then customize them with honest bumps, bruises and scratches and try my best to wear them out.
That's just my M.O., but then again I'll be 60 in another few short months which makes me almost as old as Jocko was back when he was 60.
surv
Salty. I LOVE 97's. I don't have one but I've shot a ton of them and like an idiot I gave a really nice one to an officer who was a 97 fan.
Surv, I'll be 60 in a few long months too, think we're twins?http://bawanna45.wix.com/bawannas-grip-emporium#!
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I'm used to the crossbolt safety, asi it's what I grew up with on my shotguns, the tang safety always seemed out of place, until I got my O/U Now I am fine with either one.
I like the crossbolt safety, as that gives the trigger finger a conveniet index to keep it on, and with one quick motion you can turn off the safety and move your finger to trigger. But that's just what I am used too. You will get used to the Mossberg tang safety, as I did when I was using a 9200 semi auto Mossberg. That's an inexpensive semi if you are looking for a semi.Tom
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I see a lot of guys liking 20 gauge guns over 12 gauge for HD. What's the appeal? Less recoil?Glock 23
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