SCCY - What do owners think?

[pbagley]

Quick update - A friend and I shopped at lunch today at a local retailer. They had something in the case that looked a lot like the SCCY. It turned out to be a KelTec P11. Same two tone finish for $10 less than the SCCY, but only one magazine. With two magazines the cost is $15 more than the SCCY. The KelTec in black over grey was $20 less.

Out of curiosity I checked out the KelTec. First observation - the grip is thinner even though the magazine capacity is the same. I'd have to put them side by side to to see if the grip is longer, or if any of the dimensions are significantly different.

The dealer sells KelTec, does not sell SCCY, and so they had nothing nice to say about the competition. After a casual handling of the KelTec I do not see a great quality difference. It has a slightly different feel due to the thinner grip, More like a 1911 width compared to the SCCY's more square handle. I couldn't talk my friend into buying it so we could compare them side by side, he was more interested in a Shield in .40 S&W.

[berettabone]

Sounds like your friend is a smart man. A Shield is a Cadillac in comparison.

[mr surveyor]

Quick update - A friend and I shopped at lunch today at a local retailer. They had something in the case that looked a lot like the SCCY. It turned out to be a KelTec P11. Same two tone finish for $10 less than the SCCY, but only one magazine. With two magazines the cost is $15 more than the SCCY. The KelTec in black over grey was $20 less.

Out of curiosity I checked out the KelTec. First observation - the grip is thinner even though the magazine capacity is the same. I'd have to put them side by side to to see if the grip is longer, or if any of the dimensions are significantly different.

The dealer sells KelTec, does not sell SCCY, and so they had nothing nice to say about the competition. After a casual handling of the KelTec I do not see a great quality difference. It has a sSlightly different feel due to the thinner grip, More like a 1911 width compared to the SCCY's more square handle. I couldn't talk my friend into buying it so we could compare them side by side, he was more interested in a Shield in .40 S&W.

sometimes I think my posts are invisible on this forum

[pbagley]

they've come a long way since stealing George Kelgren's KelTec P11 design, and later getting sued by a major Vodka producer over their original choice of names

I saw it, and I appreciated the contribution to the conversation.

They said the much of this at the shop today. Still they made their preference to the KelTec in the case over the SCCY they do not carry very apparent. Just one opinion, and some have the opposite.

[Longitude Zero]

I might try the SCCY one day but IMHO Kel-Tec has always been and will always be JUNK.

[DeaconKC]

I have only handled a SCCY at a shop, out of curiosity. I hope they have the bugs worked out as it seemed like a good gun. Some folks don't like Taurus or Keltec or even Sig. I have a Keltec PF9 that has over 500 rounds through it and runs like a champ. Give yours a fair break in and make sure it runs on your carry ammo. Good luck, and thanks for the updates.

[O'Dell]

I have only handled a SCCY at a shop, out of curiosity. I hope they have the bugs worked out as it seemed like a good gun. Some folks don't like Taurus or Keltec or even Sig. I have a Keltec PF9 that has over 500 rounds through it and runs like a champ. Give yours a fair break in and make sure it runs on your carry ammo. Good luck, and thanks for the updates.

I'd be willing to bet that yours has the later barrel. I had an earlier one that was VERY ammo finicky. It wouldn't even feed WWB or Federal bulk reliably.

[pbagley]

Sounds like your friend is a smart man. A Shield is a Cadillac in comparison.

Take a look at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a2xuspv0ZlE

[pbagley]

As long as I'm on a roll... I was a little defensive concerning the 738TCP and feed issues. Most recent issues having to do with very light reloads. I just ran across a couple of YouTube videos on fixing the feeding problems with these little guns. It turns out that the magazine is the culprit. The rounds are not allowed to tip up into the chamber by too tight front edge of the feed lips. With the slide not travelling all the way to the rear there is less spring pressure to muscle the round into the chamber. Not a problem with the SD rounds since they are full power loads.

You learn something new every day.

Monday is looking warm, and my company gives us President's Day. I'm looking forward to some fresh air and exercise trudging through the snow from the firing line to the target stands and back. Plus it is best to shovel behind the firing line if you pick up your brass.

[berettabone]

Take a look at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a2xuspv0ZlE

Don't own one of these either

[pbagley]

Saturday update - YouTube videos for people that have a lot of time on their hands. Not so much for these two, but YouTube tends to capture you and keep you watching one after another for hours on end.

On topic for the SCCY - Gun Torture Tests:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uZDyyBxZzP4

And they finally break their SCCY CPX2:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YzYm_CqMZG8

[DeaconKC]

Here's Hickock45 on one:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vTgFs-m59RY

[DeaconKC]

O'Dell, mine has run on WWB and Remington bulk very well. When I got it it had a couple FTF in the first few mags, but since then has been totally reliable. It does like the old Black talons, which is what it is loaded with it.

[TheShadow]

I ordered mine from Buds and will pick it up at PSA on monday. Will be taking it to the range later in the week. Will video it just as I did the CW9 and will post my results on YT just as I did the CW9. Good or bad.

Terry

[pbagley]

Range Day, finally. 8 days of ownership and today was the first day above 25f. Still below freezing, but nice enough.

First 10 I did not hit the repair center at 25 yards. Next 10 I tried shooting left, right, high, low, combinations, nothing. Finally I added more paper to hopefully see where the thing was hitting.

This one concerned me:

A new gun should not be key-holing. I saw another on the paper in the next 10 shots. Hits seemed to be getting closer to point of aim so I tried 10 shots on a target.

These were rounds 41 to 50. First box done, 5 out of 10 hit the repair center. Much better than the first 10.

I shot another 50 Federal 115gr factory loads, including twice filling each magazine to 10 rounds. Impressions - felt recoil is less than a CM9. Trigger is sharply squared. The countour was not a real problem, but the trigger has a little issue at the bottom. The fat of your finger pad hanging below the trigger can get pinched when the gun fires. A smooth rounded trigger with less of a pinch point like on the CM9 is better.

With 100 rounds of factory down range I started load testing using the CM9. I wanted to see how a load felt in a +p rated gun before I tried it in the SCCY. I was also checking primers to see how hot the loads were. If the primer was flattened at all then no go in the SCCY. I shot 25 of my reloads to see how the SCCY accuracy compared to the Kahr. The CM9 was better.

Bottom line:
- 125 rounds fired
- 100% functional, no failures.
- one magazine was quite difficult to load, the other was fine.
. The problem magazine was the one I changed the base on, possible user error.
- Accuracy was poor with all ammo used.
. Some key-holing, some rounds far out to the edges or completely outside the 24"by 24" target area.

I need to contact SCCY about the accuracy and key-holing issue.