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  • .380 Carry Ammo Test

    Found this test of modern .380 defense ammo for those of you who CCW a .380 pistol...I have seen this before and if it was previously posted please forgive me but I found it pretty well done and surprising because some of the most popular brands didn't make the cut right off the bat....

    Give it a look if you are looking for carry ammo for your P380 or other micro pistols...

    http://shootingthebull.net/blog/fina...cp-ammo-quest/
    " An armed society is a polite society".... Robert A. Heinlein

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  • #2
    Yes, it has been listed recently, but I watched it again, too.

    Notice that he tested only STANDARD pressure loads. The Kahr .380's can handle +P, so some of those "marginal" loads probably penetrate a bit more at +P velocities... around 100+ fps than standard. I use the Gold Dots by Buffalo Bore, but am switching to Underwood's +P 90-gr Gold Dots because BB hasn't been able to continue using GD's.

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    • #3
      I don't think there is a SAAMI standard for +P in .380 acp, so it's just too risky.
      Draw me not without provocation, sheath me not without honor.

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      • #4
        I am not the least bit concerned about over penetration. If you are standing behind the individual that I'm shooting then you are in the wrong place at the wrong time. Sorry about that. If I shoot I'm going to fire more than once. If I can't stop an assailant with three solid shots to the torso shame on me. Ball ammo has worked ever since the .380 was invented and it feeds the most reliably of all the ammunition available for the .380. Call me old school.
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        • #5
          Originally posted by muggsy View Post
          I am not the least bit concerned about over penetration. If you are standing behind the individual that I'm shooting then you are in the wrong place at the wrong time. Sorry about that.
          That's a really sad statement and give CC a bad image.

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          • #6
            If you think that in a SHTF situation that you are going to be worried about anything other than your own behind you had better think again. This isn't the freakin movies cowboy. This is real life and death. If you aren't willing to take a life to save your own don't carry.
            Never trust anyone who doesn't trust you to own a gun.

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            • #7
              shoot a midget with a +P380 and u might get full plus penetration. shoot a fat slob like Muggsy and u get 6inches MAX. I would not worry alot about penetration as I woud jus thitting the fokker when I pull the trigger. U should dar well know ur range of confidence and theb consider when SHTF ta tur gonna be all over the target with ur rounds to Unless u have been there done that stuff, a shoot out is not a good thing, no matter if ur a cop or civilian. U canb obnly train so far ad then the adrenalin dump comes into play ad u have no real clue at that time what is gonna happen.

              I am a frim believer that I take care of ol jocko and his family first and then after that I will analyze the situation and think not once but not twice but many times IF I REALLY WANT TO GETINVOLVED. every scenario presents itself differently,s oI am not gonna pretend one to anyone. COMMON SENSE rules. Whenu draw that gun, u best beprepared to use it and not worryt about penetration.

              Most of all of my penetration was done in the back seat of my 57 dodge back 57 years ago. Just sayin.

              Now for an important announcement. I like corbon 380 owerball +P. It is hot, it feeds so so nice in my P380. I doube if a 380 will over penetrate much either with any round, but if u gotta shoot someone, pick a fat person. Just sayin
              . My PM9 has over 34,000+ rounds through it, and runs much better than an illegal trying to get across our border


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              • #8
                Re: .380 Carry Ammo Test

                Originally posted by muggsy View Post
                If you think that in a SHTF situation that you are going to be worried about anything other than your own behind you had better think again. This isn't the freakin movies cowboy. This is real life and death. If you aren't willing to take a life to save your own don't carry.
                Now is not a SHTF situation, now is the time to make reasoned choices. As you stated, your choice is to hell with innocent bystanders. That's deplorable.

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                • #9
                  Ideal is penetration + expansion not one or the other. If one bullet does both and feeds well that is the best. Make the most informed decision possible. How many people carry lead round nose in their .38/357 revolvers for personal defense?

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                  • #10
                    In a SHTF situation I want ammo that I can count on to do the job. With hardball in the .380 you are almost guaranteed to get enough penetration. Hardball was all that was available for years and it served the purpose quite well. Are you going to hesitate to shoot, because you might miss and kill an innocent bystander? If you get into a shooting situation you are going to have tunnel vision. Your full attention will be on your assailant. Your hearing and fine motor skills are going on a holiday. In all probability you'll loose control of your bowels. Now tell me how concerned your going to be about innocent bystanders. This is the real world friend. If your going to carry a gun be prepared to use it.
                    Never trust anyone who doesn't trust you to own a gun.

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                    • #11
                      Yeah, I live in the real world. Carrying FMJ can be defended, your statements cannot.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by WMac19 View Post
                        Yeah, I live in the real world. Carrying FMJ can be defended, your statements cannot.
                        That's your opinion and you are welcome to it.
                        Never trust anyone who doesn't trust you to own a gun.

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                        • #13
                          There are some decent 380 loads as the YouTube series showed. They meet the specs and I don't need to take the chance of over penetrate by FMJ

                          just 'bout the action boss...

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                          • #14
                            .380 ammo test

                            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=soNdX36P-3E
                            Never trust anyone who doesn't trust you to own a gun.

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                            Colt Gold Cup 70 series
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                            Ruger Mark III .22-45
                            Kahr CM9
                            Kahr P380

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                            • #15
                              Understanding ballistic gel tests.

                              http://www.thebangswitch.com/underst...allistics-gel/
                              Never trust anyone who doesn't trust you to own a gun.

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