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  • #31
    whats inviserate mean? Jusst sayin
    . My PM9 has over 34,000+ rounds through it, and runs much better than an illegal trying to get across our border


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    • #32
      I think

      Originally posted by muggsy View Post
      Ball ammo only makes neat little round holes with straight on shots in ballistic Gel. Any bullet that tumbles creates a nasty wound channel. Any bullet that strikes bone or loses velocity rapidly loses rotational stability will tumble. Military .223 ammo is devastatingly effective because it tumbles. The single most important factor is penetration. The more penetration the more tissue damage. I don't advocate that anyone use ball ammo in their .380. I'm only telling you what I use in my .380 and why. In a fire fight I'm not concerned with so called "collateral damage". I'm only concerned about my own survival.
      ur brain tumbles alot to. Just sayin
      . My PM9 has over 34,000+ rounds through it, and runs much better than an illegal trying to get across our border


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      • #33
        Eviscerate is where the abdomen is sliced/slashed open and the internal organs (guts) spill out. That can break your concentration... distract you a bit, but maybe the adrenalin rush and flight or fight reaction will allow you to finish off the threat before you seek medical attention... gather up your hanging innards and look for an aspirin... and a stiff shot of something to tide you over until medical help arrives... or you assume room temperature.

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        • #34
          oh, I thought it was supin suxual. not interested in inversarate then. tank u wyn. ur da man!!! Just sayin
          . My PM9 has over 34,000+ rounds through it, and runs much better than an illegal trying to get across our border


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          • #35
            Originally posted by wyntrout View Post
            ... or you assume room temperature.

            Wynn
            Assume room temperature... Hadn't heard that one but if I use it I'll change it up a bit to "assume ambient temperature". After all, not all the action takes place indoors.
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            • #36
              Good point. I thought ambient was a pill you took to sleep at night but I might be mixed up some.
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              • #37
                Originally posted by muggsy View Post
                I am not the least bit concerned about over penetration. If you are standing behind the individual that I'm shooting then you are in the wrong place at the wrong time. Sorry about that. If I shoot I'm going to fire more than once. If I can't stop an assailant with three solid shots to the torso shame on me. Ball ammo has worked ever since the .380 was invented and it feeds the most reliably of all the ammunition available for the .380. Call me old school.
                OK, there are lots of possible scenarios as people have posted here.
                Here's mine:
                I have sneaked up behind the bad guy, both my arms are raised and I am just about to clobber him with a 2x4 when Muggsy shoots him thru the head. The bullet exits then turns and hits the bad guy in the wrist. It exits the wrist, turns again and goes thru the fleshy skin hanging underneath my arm. It's a minor wound, but I'm on the ground screaming bloody murder. At the lawsuit trial I show up in a full body cast and have to type all my answers with my middle finger, the only thing that is able to move. Muggsy has to come out of retirement to pay off the cash settlement I receive and I also end up owning all his guns, especially the Kahrs. Justice is served.
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                • #38
                  I used the one that most people would unnerstand. I was tryin' to not get too technical.

                  I originally was thinking of using something about taking a dirt nap.

                  Ennyhow... being eviscerated isn't a pleasant experience and I hope to get my pistol out before that can happen... and empty a magazine... reloading as needed. I DO carry a spare Kahr magazine... a HIGH CAPACITY one, too.
                  :59:

                  Wynn
                  USAF Retired '88, NRA Life Member. Wife USAF Retired '96
                  Avatar: Wynn re-enlists his wife Desiree, circa 1988 Loring AFB, ME. 42nd BMW, Heavy (SAC) B-52G's
                  Frédéric Bastiat’s essay, The Law: http://mises.org/books/thelaw.pdf

                  Thomas Jefferson said

                  “A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have.”
                  and

                  "Peace is that brief glorious moment in history when everybody stands around reloading".

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Baklash View Post
                    OK, there are lots of possible scenarios as people have posted here.
                    Here's mine:
                    I have sneaked up behind the bad guy, both my arms are raised and I am just about to clobber him with a 2x4 when Muggsy shoots him thru the head. The bullet exits then turns and hits the bad guy in the wrist. It exits the wrist, turns again and goes thru the fleshy skin hanging underneath my arm. It's a minor wound, but I'm on the ground screaming bloody murder. At the lawsuit trial I show up in a full body cast and have to type all my answers with my middle finger, the only thing that is able to move. Muggsy has to come out of retirement to pay off the cash settlement I receive and I also end up owning all his guns, especially the Kahrs. Justice is served.
                    Ah yes, the magic bullet senario. I know that one well. I just want you to know that if you are fool enough to stand behind the perp that I'm ventilating and get wounded that I'm not going to let you suffer. I believe in putting a fool out of his misery. Just sayin.
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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by jocko View Post
                      ur brain tumbles alot to. Just sayin
                      Did you guys hear something? I thought that it sounded a bit like a $2 Missouri mule breaking wind, or a braying jackass.
                      Never trust anyone who doesn't trust you to own a gun.

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                      • #41
                        Well we all know why Missouri got the mules and Illinois got the Swedes.
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                        In Memory of Paul "Dietrich" Stines.
                        Dad: Say something nice to your cousin Shirley
                        Dietrich: For a fat girl you sure don't sweat much.
                        Cue sound of Head slap.

                        RIP Muggsy & TMan

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                        • #42
                          That is easy... Missouri had first choice.



                          Bawanna gave a cleaned up joke....
                          Originally posted by Bawanna View Post
                          Well we all know why Missouri got the mules and Illinois got the Swedes.
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