Single stack Kahrs and the double wide 320. Your thoughts?

[saltydog452]

The single stack striker activated Kahrs fits in with our needs as we see them. There aren't any
plans on changing what seems to fit in with our family circumstance or activity level.

That said, The double stack striker fired 320 would seem to offer some serious competition.

It is understood that this is a Kahr Forum, but if there are any first hand comments about the 320,
I'd appreciate hearing what you have to offer.


Thanks,

salty

[Barth]

The single stack striker activated Kahrs fits in with our needs as we see them. There aren't any
plans on changing what seems to fit in with our family circumstance or activity level.

That said, The double stack striker fired 320 would seem to offer some serious competition.

It is understood that this is a Kahr Forum, but if there are any first hand comments about the 320,
I'd appreciate hearing what you have to offer.


Thanks,

salty

Don't know what a 320 is - Sig P320?
No matter - I'm having trouble understanding how a double stack anything is serious competition for a Kahr?
If you want a double stack sub-compact?
Look at HK P2000SK Light LEM V1.

Forgive me if I'm curt.
I'm brand sensitive - LOL!

[forestranger]

I have a P320 compact and it's a nice shooter. It's more of a "house gun" for me. It's not too bad a transition from the Kahr trigger. It's thicker/heavier but could certainly be carried. I just like the Kahr trigger & size better for carry, maybe because I'm an "old" revolver shooter.

[JohnR]

Only competition is the Sig P290. PM9-sized.

[b4uqzme]

The Sig P320 subcompact looks pretty nice to me. 1.1in wide and 12+1 9mm. But it's 24oz before you start loading all those bullets in there.

[Higgy Baby]

The only striker fired gun I own is the CT 380....and I've only had it about 3 weeks or so.

All the rest of my guns are da/sa hammer fired. To me....they just shoot too much better than striker guns-all inclusive.
I mainly carry a Bersa 380 Plus or a Bersa 9 UC. Excellent triggers.

The CT 380 is intended for pocket carry, mainly in the summer.

[Alfonse]

If I was going to carry a compact double-stack, it would probably be a CZ PCR. Decocker and nice double action pull for the first round. Single action after that. I like having a hammer too.

But, I don't carry a double-stack. I carry a Kahr.

[hardluk1]

Hum, close mind folks abound . I have a cm9 but it see's little carry time over the last few years in favore of a tp40 kahr .
Wonder if b4uqzme will jump and knotch the weight if it too at 22.2oz !!

Saltydog . What you carry depends on your lifestyle as far as physical size goes . When working a cm9 or cw9 was all I wanted , snubby for 20 years before that and it seems I was always working so a double stack would have been a no deal option for me .

Now I find the larger commander size tp40 works well as my days of hard physical work are behind me . Or did work well till hand surgery . Tried a m&p for a while as my wife has 2 of them . Even bought a 40 full size and found I could CC it just like my tp40 . 2:00 canted to the rear and set high . Driving and sitting worked with it well to but it still hurt some and my daughter liked it and had no house gun . Sge CC's my old cw9 too .

I bought a sig P320 full size 4.75" barrel model . I ordered a garrett silent thunder fusion holster and will see if up front is still possible but 3:30 4:00 will be fine too . If your wanting a sig p320 go for it . Its very nice handgun , more than accurate enough and comes in 4 variations in size . Full size grip length is also used on the carry model , the compact is 1-40 cal round shorter or 2-9mm shorter . The 3 larger models also have 3 different circumferences, mine is a medium . My very average sized hand fits the full size grip length fully with only the mag hangs below .

The compact can use a x-grip adaptor with full size mags too. Both the carry and compact use the 3.9" barrel . That length can be carried with little effort . Then the SC model has a the smaller thinner 1.10 wide grip and the same 1.06 wide slide as the others but shorter 3.6" barrel and ONLY 2.8oz heavier than a tp or ct kahr 9 or 40 cal . and .10 wider or less . Comes with 12 round mags and can upgrade to 15 rounders with X-grip fillers too. Buy a wider holster like garrett holster ,STF and your good to go. I personal hate skinny holsters and use a comp-tac neutral even for my kahrs small or large but they don't have a p320 kydex body for it yet for the railed pistols . My wifes SC fits a m&p body from comp-tac well .

Trigger pull is different from other strikers. Take up is 5.5lbs with an extra 1 1/2lb of pressure with small amount of movement to fire . Short reset but with enough movement that you can pre-stage the trigger while sights are settling on target . 200 rounds thru mine and take up has settled to 5lb take up and trigger pull is 6.5lb now but more controllable than my 5lb kahrs buy far . Heaviest carry trigger I have but still very nice and will leave it alone . My 9 year old grandson ran a mag thru it yesterday shooting 155gr underwoods . Shot it very well at 7 yards and had a big ole smile on his face , Kids are great . no fear .



So what do you think . Enough info ??

[berettabone]

I too prefer sa/da firearms..............................I agree that the HK P2000SK is a fine firearm, and I've always liked Sigs............................never handled a 320, but it sounds like I may not like the trigger. I'll have to check one out the next time I'm at a GS..........................

[hardluk1]

Humm, don't like it , never touch it , Humm Sound like guys talking about kahrs !!

[b4uqzme]

Wonder if b4uqzme will jump and knotch the weight if it too at 22.2oz !!

Well, Heck! That makes ALL the difference!

Seriously, I always thought, if I'd go for a doublestack 9mm, it would be a CZ RAMI with a decocker. My logic is that I'm really only interested in subcompact 9mms because anything larger and I already have .40's. But the Sig P320 in a subcompact sounds like a better option for me should I ever move forward. I don't mind the striker system...in fact I guess I prefer it. DA/SA was always a compromise IMHO.

[b4uqzme]

And if OP is asking "should Kahr make a double-stack?". I say more power to 'em if they do. But it's no big deal to me if they don't because there ARE good options already available. Kahr already does what it does extremely well IMHO.

[hardluk1]

b4uqzme The p250sc would be better deal for the die hard double action trigger puller as that's what it has . Trigger pull is lighter and closer to our kahrs . What the hay , they both work well .

And yes they should have made a double stack , 10 years ago ! I know lots of people pitch a fit when the word taurus is mentioned but with a model 85 I carried for 20 years and a couple of really good tcp's I have to give them a honest chance . My wife also has a pt111g2 she carry's once in a while really seems to be a very good pistol for the small amount of money , priced like a cm , cw ,ct pistol . Short striker 4 1/2lbs trigger pull , 20 oz weight , 1" wide , 12 round cap and used p226 mags but no filler like from x grip . But with a 16 to 20 rounds as back up at a small high cap option . Made in a 9mm and 40 version. I ran 400 rounds thru it ands a shooter and easy to like .
That's the pistol kahr should have made .
http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/p...nium+Pro+G2+BL

[b4uqzme]

b4uqzme The p250sc would be better deal for the die hard double action trigger puller as that's what it has . Trigger pull is lighter and closer to our kahrs . What the hay , they both work well...

Thanks for the reminder. The P250 has been on and off my radar for a long time. But I'm surprised that the trigger is better than the striker fired Sigs. I may have to move double-stack nines up on my priority list. And I thank OP for that. My wallet thanks you too.

[jocko]

And if OP is asking "should Kahr make a double-stack?". I say more power to 'em if they do. But it's no big deal to me if they don't because there ARE good options already available. Kahr already does what it does extremely well IMHO.

MY 21 cents is that u wll definitely see a double stack kahr, naturally it will be in a 9mm and not those elephgant size 45's. but it will happen and probably 50 years later they will introudce the 45 in a double stack and then the colonel will be happy.

Kahr has milked the singles tacks as far as they can go IMO, sdure theyt can offer different color frames etc, and dessert tan slides but its the same gun. The Gen 2 is going to be a nice weapon but no doubt it wont be a big seller as it will ot be cheap to buy fully dressed, but t does show some nice innovation on kahrs parts. Patience is golden my friend.