Police arrest man for capturing trespasser on his own land.

[TheTman]

A man out hunting on his own property, caught a trespasser, on his own land, which was clearly marked no trespassing. When the cops got there, they took the man's unloaded shotgun, and arrested the landowner for assault with a deadly weapon, and grabbed his wife's cell phone and deleted the video she took of them. Funny, they put the land owner on the ground, and looks like they give the trespasser a nice chair to sit in.
She was able to find some software that restored the deleted video, and you can see it at the link below. I just find it strange that they throw the property owner in handcuffs for having a weapon on his own property, and then try and delete the video, that his wife is taking on her own property. Got to delete that evidence of them acting like jerks.
**** like this is causing a loss of respect for LEOs. There is too much of this I have a badge, so I can make up laws as I go, crap going on.

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013...e-the-footage/

[downtownv]

It's upside down that the criminal get's the Kid glove treatment...

[muggsy]

The police cuffed the home owner for his and their protection. That's standard operating proceedure. The woman was interfering with a police investigation. Until all of the facts in the case come out no one should comment. This is sensationalist journalism at its worst. The police are not your enemy.

[warbird1]

Note to self...stay out of Michigan!

[TheTman]

How is standing on your own lawn videoing the police interfering with an investigation? They had taken the man's shotgun away from him, how was he a danger? And I certainly don't believe that taking your weapon away from you on your own ground, then arresting you for assault with a deadly weapon, is Standard Operating Procedure. They say they arrested him because he had a shotgun when they arrived, It's not illegal to have a firearm on your own freaking property.
When they go into a business, do they handcuff the business owner, and take his firearm away, for their own protection?
Sounds a lot like getting arrested for resisting arrest. How is that even possible?
The Cops are not your enemy: Tell that to the landowner they screwed over. I bet he feels real friendly to them now.
And sensationalized journalism at it's worst? I supposed we are just to turn a blind eye to it when they go overboard. No, this type of thing needs to be exposed. They need to understand they are there to uphold the law, not to create it, and not to bully people around. And certainly not treat the people that call you worse than the criminal.

Muggsy, you are going to hurt yourself if you keep bending over backwards to defend all the crap the cops pull nowadays. They can be jerks or even criminal at times.
Most of them are good people, but you know as well as I do that there are rotten apples in the bunch. Cops on a power trip, Cops on the take, Cops that shouldn't be Cops.

[muggsy]

I don't defend any crap that cops pull. I am one of the first to speak up when the law goes lawless. The police were trying to conduct an interview. The woman kept interrupting them with questions. That's interfering with an officer. I am always leery of a claim when a video camera is running. Pointing a gun at someone is considered an assault in some jurisdictions even if the gun is empty. This guy was an idiot for pointing an empty gun at someone to begin with. The trespasser could have been armed with a loaded gun. You seem to have a tendency to shoot from the hip without knowing all the facts in a case. Have you had problems with the law?

[garyb]

I agree that using a firearm for a trespassing incident is way over the top. The landowner should be arrested + some. Simply speak to the trespasser politely, get the trespasser's name, find out the situation (why he is on your property), direct or politely escort him off your property and if necessary report the incident. The trespassing laws are different in different States. Follow your State laws. Where I live, you report it to the DEC, complete an attestation form, sign it to verify it is true and they fine the offender $50. That's it. Involve a firearm for trespassing? Seriously? How do we even know the property was completely, properly and legally posted? What if the trespasser simply got twisted up in his directions and was trying to find his way out? Did that trespasser deserve to get a gun pulled on him? The situation needed an investigation without the drama. The situation could have turned out very serious by involving firearms. Use a little honey and if that does not work, have the trespasser dealt with by the law and keep your own firearm in your pants until you face a life threatening situation. We deal with it all the time on our 3400 acres...especially ATV's. I never pull a gun on anyone. It would only make the situation worse for everyone involved....as was the case in this thread incident.

I read about a trespassing situation out west where some landowner found a Vietnamese man hunting on his property. There were guns involved. The Vietnamese became agitated and sniped the landowner and some others. Lesson: Unless it is self defense, just call the law to deal with trespassers. Don't try to enforce the law...even on your own property. (Every State is different).

[Longitude Zero]

I don't defend any crap that cops pull. I am one of the first to speak up when the law goes lawless. The police were trying to conduct an interview. The woman kept interrupting them with questions. That's interfering with an officer. I am always leery of a claim when a video camera is running. Pointing a gun at someone is considered an assault in some jurisdictions even if the gun is empty. This guy was an idiot for pointing an empty gun at someone to begin with. The trespasser could have been armed with a loaded gun. You seem to have a tendency to shoot from the hip without knowing all the facts in a case. Have you had problems with the law?

Agreed with the majority stated here.

[TheTman]

No, I have not had any problem with the law. The man was out hunting on his own land and ran across the trespasser. So he was armed, it's not like he saw the guy and ran and got his gun. If one owns some wooded land and someone is trespassing on it, it may well be a good idea to be armed. Why are they trespassing? Maybe they are growing some weed on your property, and they could well be armed.
And the only person saying he had a shotgun pointed at him, was the trespasser, who is going to say whatever he can to portray himself as the victim.
I read the article and watched the video several times, before posting anything about it. I did not shoot from the hip. I've not posted several similar articles, because something looked fishy.
I'm very concerned about the police becoming more militarized under Obama, and some of the things that they do. Maybe my sense of what is "overboard" and yours differ.
A friend of mine had property stolen by the police, because she was taking care of an older lady, and the lady sent the husband to the bank to cash a check for her, and a lady at the bank got suspicious, because the husband had never cashed a check for the lady before, and the next thing you know, police are raiding the home, confiscating cash and her brand new computer (a Christmas present from the old lady). And SRS shows up accusing her of abusing the older lady, and just all kinds of crap. Then the cops took the old lady and badgered the old gal into saying what they wanted her to say, (she had a bit of dementia, and was very upset and confused by all the commotion and just told the cops what they wanted her to say) Anyway, after she was cleared of all charges, the police refused to return her property, saying that it was being used in an ongoing investigation. Things like this go on and it's BS. One of the items they kept was a brand new computer. They could have copied all the information from the hard drive and returned the computer, but NO, they had to keep the whole thing. Once the she was cleared of any wrong doing, her property should have been returned. She also sat in the court, and listened to the detective tell lies about her, while under oath, on the witness stand. Was that overboard? I think so. Particularly them not returning the property they confiscated. Maybe a visit by SRS might have been in order, but the police raid was a bit much. All this for taking care of an old lady friend of the family.

And I don't think a cop should be able to stop you, and confiscate your money because they "think" you may be going to purchase drugs. How much cash is too much? It's not posted anywhere. Strictly a judgment call by the officer.
I took a large sum of cash with me out of state to buy a motorcycle once. I got a super good deal, because he needed cash that weekend, to buy a custom car, and didn't want to try to cash a check on a Sunday for that amount of money.
I'm sure it was enough that some cop could have thought I was off to buy drugs. I didn't give it much thought at the time. Hopefully the empty trailer we were pulling to haul the bike home would might have convinced a cop I was telling the truth about the cash, but who knows? What type of country allows property to be confiscated, without any trial, and the burden is on you to prove you are innocent. Sounds like something from Russia, or Nazi Germany. Now I can see confiscating a vehicle if drugs are found in it, but having your cash stolen, because someone THINKS you may be going to buy drugs is a little bit out there.
I just see us slipping into a police state, and if people don't speak up, and challenge things, it's just going to get worse.
I am not anti-cop, I am anti abuse of power. By Cop, Congress, the Administration, whomever.

[muggsy]

You worry to much. Worry will make an old man out of you. Notice how young and virile Jocko and I look. We don't worry about nuthin. Since when does a man go out hunting with an empty shotgun? C'mon, TMan you're sharper than that.

[TheTman]

He took the shell out when the cops got there to show the them it was unloaded, Did you even read the article? It was a single shot .410. Must have really scared those cops.
If you're NOT worried about the direction this country is going, then I don't know what to tell you comrade.

[7shot]

The man was out hunting on his own land and ran across the trespasser. So he was armed, it's not like he saw the guy and ran and got his gun. If one owns some wooded land and someone is trespassing on it, it may well be a good idea to be armed. Why are they trespassing? Maybe they are growing some weed on your property, and they could well be armed.
And the only person saying he had a shotgun pointed at him, was the trespasser, who is going to say whatever he can to portray himself as the victim.

I was thinking the exact same thing you stated above... (and who and the heck goes hunting with a shotgun and no shells)! What's he going to do, club it to death!

I also can see the cops view on their arrival too, they don't know who's who and who did wrong. So I can see disarming the dude with the shotgun. Also the wife needs to know when to keep her f'in mouth shut after explaining her version of what went down. Instead she keeps yaping and then starts videoing. Cop tells her to stop, she doesn't, bag interfering with a police act. Cop tells you to stop doing something, you stop. She just made matters worse.

Yes, some cops take it to the extreme, but on the whole they are on our side...

[John222]

I don't defend any crap that cops pull. I am one of the first to speak up when the law goes lawless. The police were trying to conduct an interview. The woman kept interrupting them with questions. That's interfering with an officer. I am always leery of a claim when a video camera is running. Pointing a gun at someone is considered an assault in some jurisdictions even if the gun is empty. This guy was an idiot for pointing an empty gun at someone to begin with. The trespasser could have been armed with a loaded gun. You seem to have a tendency to shoot from the hip without knowing all the facts in a case. Have you had problems with the law?

Oh crap, I agree with Muggsy!!! And once again the Tman is pandering half baked stories.

[Longitude Zero]

Oh crap, I agree with Muggsy!!! And once again the Tman is pandering half baked stories.

Pretty much the status quo. I too find myself agreeing with muggsy a lot more recently. Maybe he changed brands of scotch. As for the TFH/CL's here par for the course. In Tmans defense he is not the only one he has company.

[TheTman]

John222, if you have a problem with the story, take it up with TheBlaze.com I simply provided a link and an overview of the story, for those that don't click on "blind" links.
At least I don't question congressmen's sexuality based on their contributor's sexual preference.