Anyone sign up yet on Healthcare.gov?

[John222]

My daughter aged out of my plan. Since she is low income, working part time while getting her masters, she qualified for the Obamacare tax credit of $1800 per year. So I was able to get her a Gold plan for $80/month. No complaints here!

[chrish]

Well I pay for people with diabeties, cancer ..etc. None of these services are needed by me.

Not how insurance works, you are comparing apples to oranges. Vasectomies, dental coverage, maternity...all elective coverage for conditions that you elect to pay for because you are guaranteed to use them. Folks that opt for those are PLANNING to get pregnant (typically), planning to get a vasectomy, planning to have their teeth cleaned. You are just financing those items, its not insurance.

Diabetes, heart conditions, cancer...all insurance, risk pool type stuff.

Not the same.

Regarding your second post...that $1800 has to come from somewhere and its from the tax payers. Btw, if she is healthy she could have gotten an $80 policy w/o Obamacare most likely.

[JohnR]

Anyone sign up yet on Healthcare.gov?

I won't even try going to their website. Too much personal data goes to the government and is shared with DHS. Why do I need a credit check to buy a government-mandated product?

[downtownv]

Interesting article!
Gun Owners of America
Don’t Buy ObamaCare Insurance Just Because the Government Tells You To
Follow Rep. Steve Stockman’s lead!
For over three years, Gun Owners of America has been warning Americans about the dangers of ObamaCare.

While more and more Americans continue to learn about the unintentional “glitches” populating the ObamaCare website, they are also discovering the INTENTIONAL dangers the new law poses for gun owners.

The news about these problems continues to spread, and other groups continue to forward our information. Just recently, the Tea Party Unity ran a GOA article entitled, “ObamaCare Threatens Gun Owners Rights.”

Indeed, ObamaCare will take the gun ban that has disarmed more than 150,000 military veterans and expand it to potentially cover millions and millions of additional Americans.

Having said that, if you or a member of your family has a condition that requires serious medical attention, fine. There’s no moral imperative preventing you from trying to benefit from Obama’s health care “house of cards,” while it lasts.

But don’t buy insurance just because the President tells you to and threatens to fine you if you don’t. First, many believe that this isn’t going to happen. But even if it did, consider this.

President “Above-the-Law” Obama has now waived ObamaCare for everyone except for us -- the “little guys.” But it’s going to victimize us, in spades.

ObamaCare, as drafted, purported to protect some, but not all, of our Second Amendment rights. Yet Obama pretty much showed his hands with Executive Action 16, where he encouraged doctors to ask kids and their parents about guns and enter that information into a federally run database.

Are you ready to have a government bureaucrat decide if you may own a gun or not, with no day in court? Once doctors start entering your personal information into the medical database, there will be nothing to stop the FBI from using your medical information to deny you the right to purchase a firearm.

We thought we had barred this danger with language that was inserted in Harry Reid’s manager’s amendment (of the ObamaCare bill) at our insistence. But it has now become clear that ObamaCare is “the law of the land” only when it suits Barack Obama’s purposes:

* ObamaCare has provisions that penalize unions and other Obama supporters. Waived by Obama for many of them.

* ObamaCare’s prohibition on subsidies threatened Congress and its staff. Waived (illegally) by Obama.

* ObamaCare imposed a mandate on businesses, beginning January 1, 2014. Waived illegally by Obama.

* ObamaCare required states to provide Medicaid for a greater percentage of the poor and middle class. Overturned by the Supreme Court.

* ObamaCare required Obama to have an exchange system up and running by October 1. That didn’t happen.

The bottom line? Obama can’t force you to comply with ObamaCare, if he’s not going to comply with it himself.

But, you say, the Supreme Court upheld the constitutionality of the law in NFIB v. Sebelius.

Yeah, but remember McCain-Feingold, the unconstitutional campaign finance restrictions on pro-gun speech? The court initially upheld the law’s constitutionality IN THEORY. But years later, when an advocacy group challenged the law, the Court found that the law was largely unconstitutional IN PRACTICE.

There will be legal foundations lining up at the courthouse door to establish that ObamaCare can’t penalize Americans in 2014. Gun Owners Foundation will join in their efforts. And, if necessary, we may bring the suit ourselves.

Obviously, we don’t have a crystal ball, but it may very well be that the launch of ObamaCare will continue to be so disastrous, that the President may very well waive the mandate (and the penalties) for the first year.

But even if he doesn’t, there comes a point when, like our Founding Father Patrick Henry, we have to decide if we are just going to submit to tyranny or if we are going to resist: “For my own part, I consider it as nothing less than a question of freedom or slavery… But as for me, give me liberty or give me death!”

Of course, we are not talking about resisting on the battlefield (the way Henry was). No, our resistance must come in answering this question: Am I going to sign up for -- and take part in -- an unconstitutional mandate that perpetuates tyranny and advances gun control? Or am I willing to resist tyranny, and even be willing to pay a fine, on the chance that Obama doesn’t waive the penalties for failing to participate in ObamaCare?

This is exactly what every member of the staff in Rep. Steve Stockman’s office has done. All in his office recently voted to reject enrolling in the D.C. exchange.

“ObamaCare is a failing Ponzi scheme that can only work if it overcharges young people and denies care to older people,” Rep. Stockman said. “ObamaCare is not health care and we shouldn’t bail it out with tax dollars.”

ACTION ITEMS:

1) Don’t buy ObamaCare just because Obama threatens you. (Again, we’re not trying to dissuade you from benefiting from Obama’s collapsing structure if you or a member of your family has serious medical needs. Enjoy it while it lasts.)

2) Click here to email your Representatives and Senators, urging them to work towards repealing, defunding or delaying ObamaCare (as the budget negotiations continue over the next few months).

[Longitude Zero]

My daughter aged out of my plan. Since she is low income, working part time while getting her masters, she qualified for the Obamacare tax credit of $1800 per year. So I was able to get her a Gold plan for $80/month. No complaints here!

I am glad it worked for her. She is in the MINORITY tho. Friends saw their premiums go from $475 to over $1500, deductible went from $1000 to $11,500 and from 80/20 to 55/45. For the vast majority Odummbercare is a crock of poopoo.

And now we find out only 6 folks signed up on day one. BFD!!!

[deadeye]

My daughter aged out of my plan. Since she is low income, working part time while getting her masters, she qualified for the Obamacare tax credit of $1800 per year. So I was able to get her a Gold plan for $80/month. No complaints here!

Very happy for you and your daughter. I hope you enjoy the insurance the rest of us are paying for.