Government to Takeover the Internet

[knkali]

Nothing selective...just about 35 years of studying economics. I stand behind my comments. They address the issue on a much grander scale than just the internet. I'm not sure why your responses need to be so mean-spirited just because some of us disagree with you.

FYI -- I'm not an "ist" anything...just an educated adult.

Milton F and I are proud of you

[b4uqzme]

Milton F and I are proud of you

Yeah, I thought about attaching a bunch of his YouTubes but I know that few will open them. Keep me honest there though knkali.

These are good discussions. I just hope we can keep them respectful so the Colonel doesn't have to shut it down. That would be a shame.

[Longitude Zero]

Yeah, I thought about attaching a bunch of his YouTubes but I know that few will open them. Keep me honest there though knkali.

These are good discussions. I just hope we can keep them respectful so the Colonel doesn't have to shut it down. That would be a shame.

knkali has corralled and schooled me a time or two. Just about my entire though of government can be understood by this one statement. "Government should be so small an entity that it can be drowned in a bathtub."

[ScottM]

Having grown up in Appalachia in the 70s and 80s, watching first- hand what happens when government gets out of the way and let's private industry operate with reckless, usury abandon, I know better.

[b4uqzme]

Having grown up in Appalachia in the 70s and 80s, watching first- hand what happens when government gets out of the way and let's private industry operate with reckless, usury abandon, I know better.

...talk about selective memory Genuinely sorry. I just couldn't let that one pass. I mean no one any ill will.

[b4uqzme]

knkali has corralled and schooled me a time or two. Just about my entire though of government can be understood by this one statement. "Government should be so small an entity that it can be drowned in a bathtub."

Well said. And a good opportunity for me to post one of my favorite Uncle Milty videos: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=prmggcDVe6w

Notice that Friedman says that the solution to corporate issues is to put a narrower scope on the influence of GOVERNMENT...not to restrict businesses. This is a fundamental principle of free market economics.

[Longitude Zero]

Well said. And a good opportunity for me to post one of my favorite Uncle Milty videos: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=prmggcDVe6w

Notice that Friedman says that the solution to corporate issues is to put a narrower scope on the influence of GOVERNMENT...not to restrict businesses. This is a fundamental principle of free market economics.

Love the vid and the philosophy.

[DanTana]

Those are some of the fundamental beliefs of conservatism. Less government the better. In all phases of life, including the internet in this case.

[JohnR]

Straw man argument. If you can't be bothered to read other people's intellectual capital then I have no confidence you'll care to authentically consider mine.

Straw man? Asking you to explain something in your own words is a straw man argument?

I'm done here. You have nothing to say except calling us names and pointing us to other peoples' writing.

[deadeye]

Straw man? Asking you to explain something in your own words is a straw man argument?

I'm done here. You have nothing to say except calling us names and pointing us to other peoples' writing.

Me too. Gosh I haven't nearly enough intellectual capital to get involved in something as deep as this.

[ScottM]

Straw man? Asking you to explain something in your own words is a straw man argument?

I'm done here. You have nothing to say except calling us names and pointing us to other peoples' writing.

Which tells be you've either been highly selective in what you've read above our you haven't read it at all, perhaps focusing on a fight instead of background provided.

I'm asking you to read something that will do a better job explaining aspects of the issue, because I don't have time to outline for you. Why should I take time from my 60 hour/wk job, fatherhood and family obligations to explain in detailed first-hand, a perspective to someone who can't even be bothered to read that?

I believe, based in your posts in this thread and others that you're being disingenuous and trying to bait me into a trollfull time suck instead of authentically considering an alternative position. I think you're being lazy, frankly, by asserting that I should summarize for you research that you should be doing yourself.

Besides, I and several others have already given plenty for you to read in this thread, which tells me again that if you haven't the wherewithal to consider that, you won't benefit from further dialogue on the matter.

It comes down to whether I think it worthwhile time spent, and I don't.

[DanTana]

President Obama is now down in SF talking cyber security and I'm sure trying to push his bill to them. Why is he attacking the internet as the "Wild West", do we need protection from it? Do we really look to government to help us enforce it? According to him, we do. Sounds like he's spinning to make the internet out as a villain and us as victims so they can "save" us from that evil.

PALO ALTO, Calif. (AP) — Cyberspace is the new "Wild West," President Barack Obama said Friday, with everyone looking to the government to be the sheriff. But he told the private sector it must do more to stop cyber attacks aimed at the U.S. every day.
"Everybody is online, and everybody is vulnerable," Obama said during a White House cybersecurity summit at Stanford University, just miles from Google, Facebook, Intel and other internet giants.
"The business leaders here want their privacy and their children protected, just like the consumer and privacy advocates here want America to keep leading the world in technology and be safe from attacks," he said.
Partnering with the federal government is a hard sell in the Silicon Valley. The pace of innovation in California's tech hub outstrips Beltway bureaucracy, and tech firms chafe at regulations that could limit their reach.

[marcinstl]

hehehehehe, some folks do their own DDDD(drill down due dilligence) and actually read the prospectus, research the history, know how to trade and eventually take some profit on Wall St.
the lazy, unintellectual, morons just read WSJ and listen to Cramer. one of the famous ways to make a small fortune is by pissing away a large fortune. I blame the educational system and the lack of emphasis on a rounded liberal arts background for that. in every trade there is a buyer and a seller, one of them has to be the chump. that's life and the guy who dies with the most toys, wins. arguing politics and policy with con-servatives can be sport, but hey, wouldn't you rather go shooting? have fun.

[knkali]

the guy who dies with the most toys, wins.

I used to really think that statement was something to live by. After watching many friends making themselves sick trying to live by that credo, I realized that he who dies with the most toys is dead. Sorry to be a wet blanket on your post. The life I might save with this post could be your own. I care amigo.

[getsome]

Well big Gubment decides the citizens need to be supervised, monitored and ultimately taxed for internet use.......

https://www.bostonherald.com/busines...ternet_service

I guess Obummer was telling the truth when he promised to fundamentally change the United States of America.....