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  • #31
    Originally posted by TheTman View Post
    I don't know that Trump has ever claimed to be a Conservative. I'd call him more of a moderate. I can't find anyplace where he has claimed to be a conservative. Others have tried to label him as one, and he hasn't said anything about it that I can find.
    nydailynews.com/news/politics/donald-trump-insists-he's-conservative
    Rest in peace Muggsy

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    • #32
      Well, Trump may say he's conservative, I still think he is more of a moderate. Most all politicians are corrupt in some way or another, Most are owned by large corporations, it depends who gives them the most "campaign" cash. None of them leave poorer than when they entered office. If nothing else, they have the benefit of insider trading, knowing what stocks will go up or down, when they pass legislation. The rest of us would be thrown in prison for such actions, but they are free to profit as much as they can. I think Pelosi was the queen of insider trading, passing legislation that made her husbands company thrive.

      We can argue all we want about which candidate is best, but it is not going to have any affect on who is nominated. So I hope that nobody gets butthurt over people liking a different candidate than the one you support, it's just not worth getting bent out of shape over. Our Forum's few hundred votes, scattered across all the different states isn't going to change the outcome of any Primaries. I don't think any Primaries are going to be that close that a few votes will make a difference. All this political talk is doing is possibly making some people upset that others don't see things their way. I'd rather not see that happen, since I consider most of us friends and "family". More so than any other Forum I've been a member of in the last 10 years.
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      • #33
        Amen. Group hug.


        Tim

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        • #34
          Give me a guy that won't take the B.S. BOTH sides are giving to us, any day!
          Trump will turn them out like the rats that they are, Their game will be VERY over, and that my friends is why the GOP doesn't want him to win......
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          • #35
            Originally posted by muggsy View Post
            John, what evidence do you have that Cruz is corrupt? If all politicians are corrupt then it doesn't really matter whom we elect. We might as well lie back and enjoyed getting screwed by who ever the fools in this country elect to office. Why bother going to the polls. Go to the range instead. You might as well shoot while you're still allowed to own a gun.
            This doesn't define "corruption" but his wife is an investment manager at Goldman Sachs, so for those who believe international banking is the root of all evil, that could be an issue.

            But let he who is without sin cast the first stone.

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            • #36
              Trump is a deal maker and he'll make any deal that he thinks will benefit Trump. He spent the majority of his life as a New York liberal democrat with New York City liberal values contributing to the people who were trying to tear this country down. He's been in bed with organized crime to make his billions. He's stiffed small businesses and has driven them into bankruptcy. He's hired illegal aliens to construct his buildings. If he wins election and names just one liberal judge to the Supreme Court he'll shift the balance of power in a direction that you aren't going to like. He doesn't think enough of you to participate in a debate to prove that he's worthy of the position and blames a female reported for Fox News for his absence.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by TheTman View Post
                We can argue all we want about which candidate is best, but it is not going to have any affect on who is nominated. So I hope that nobody gets butthurt over people liking a different candidate than the one you support, it's just not worth getting bent out of shape over. Our Forum's few hundred votes, scattered across all the different states isn't going to change the outcome of any Primaries. I don't think any Primaries are going to be that close that a few votes will make a difference. All this political talk is doing is possibly making some people upset that others don't see things their way. I'd rather not see that happen, since I consider most of us friends and "family". More so than any other Forum I've been a member of in the last 10 years.
                Well said. Still, I'm looking forward to tonight's debate which I would NOT have watched if Trump was in. I've seen enough of that show. Maybe tonight will give us our first real opportunity to see what the Republican contest looks like without him in it. And that's going to be great.
                Rest in peace Muggsy

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                • #38
                  Well apparently no group hug. But I think we can all agree that anyone from the GOP is better than Hildabeast! Bob

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by muggsy View Post
                    He doesn't think enough of you to participate in a debate to prove that he's worthy of the position and blames a female reported for Fox News for his absence.
                    These TV debates are garbage, they aren't even debates. They're pure entertainment, any substance you may run across is purely coincidental. The moderators carefully guide the participants along the path of destruction they have pre-selected.

                    Trump's debate performances have been weak anyway. It's not his forte. I suspect he'd rather just do his job instead of wasting his time being trashed by Megan Kelly.

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                    • #40
                      I'd like to get trashed with Megan Kelly. I have to agree though that these debates have been more like food fights.
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                      • #41
                        Here is a good explanation about why it's good for Trump to skip the debate:

                        http://redstatewatcher.com/article.a...mpaign=popular

                        I also saw that advertising has dropped from $750,000 per minute down to around $150,000 per minute. Why should Trump make money for Fox, by
                        being asked insulting questions?
                        Tom
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                        Kahr CW40
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                        Dan Wesson Revolver

                        HY*NDAI is to cars, what Caracal, Hi-Point, and Jennings is to handguns. The cars may or may not run ok, but the corporation SUCKS.

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by TheTman View Post
                          Here is a good explanation about why it's good for Trump to skip the debate:

                          http://redstatewatcher.com/article.a...mpaign=popular

                          I also saw that advertising has dropped from $750,000 per minute down to around $150,000 per minute. Why should Trump make money for Fox, by
                          being asked insulting questions?
                          A +++

                          Exactly! This guy has it nailed! If you consider yourself fair and balanced, then watch the ENTIRE video. Then, make your own considered decision as you see fit.


                          Tim

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                          • #43
                            Thanks for posting that TheTman.
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                            • #44
                              Donald can claim to be a conservative, but his actions speak louder that his words. Conservatives don't support abortion on demand or partial birth abortions. Conservatives don't support waiting periods or bans on assault weapons. Conservatives don't contribute $100,000 dollars to the Clinton Foundation. Conservatives don't support Harry Reid, Nancy Pelosi, Chuck Schumer, Anthony Weiner, or Bill de Blazio for office. Conservatives don't wait to become life members of the NRA until just before announcing their bid for the presidency of the United States. Trump may be what he claims to be, but I'm not willing to risk the future of this country on a man who didn't register as a republican until just three years ago.
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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by TheTman View Post
                                Here is a good explanation about why it's good for Trump to skip the debate:

                                http://redstatewatcher.com/article.a...mpaign=popular

                                I also saw that advertising has dropped from $750,000 per minute down to around $150,000 per minute. Why should Trump make money for Fox, by
                                being asked insulting questions?
                                Trump had better be ready to answer insulting questions, because as president he'll be asked that type of question on a daily basis. He doesn't seem to have a problem making insulting comments about his opponents. I won't be watching his military veteran's dog and pony show. I'll be watching the debate. If he really wanted to help the vets he could write a ten million dollar check to wounded warriors and write it off on his taxes. Ten million is chump change to "The Donald."
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