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  • #46
    If I am remembering this correctly, in Minnesota in a bar or restaurant, if it is posted no handguns, then no handguns allowed. If it isn't posted you can be there but you can't/shouldn't be consuming any alcohol over BAC .04, over a BAC of .04 is a misdemeanor. A repeat offense above .10 is a gross misdemeanor. The gun is NOT subject to fortfeiture. It is a good practice to not drink if you are carrying!

    Then there is the argument if the signs are positioned correctly at all entrances and exits and are of the legal size with the required lettering size, font and color, etc.
    * In Minnesota there must be a sign at EVERY entrance
    * the sign MUST be 187 sq. in.
    * 1 1/2" tall lettering, black Arial print on a bright, contrasting background
    * bottom of sign 4-6 feet above ground
    * sign laterally within 4 ft. of entrance
    * MUST INCLUDE and READ: (Indicate identity of Operator) "BANS GUNS IN THESE PREMISES".
    Anything other than the above is NOT a properly posted sign. Wisconsin has a totally different set of rules for signs. So, be sure to check the rules and laws in the state where you live as they differ.

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    • #47
      I assume it is posted in multiple languages to. There are a hell of alot of border crossers in this cuntry that can't read or write. Just sayin.
      . My PM9 has over 34,000+ rounds through it, and runs much better than an illegal trying to get across our border


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      • #48
        I have had my ccw for over twenty years and thats just in Florida. It is lawfull to carry in a food establishment provided that you aren't just drinking at the bar area. I have not yet run into any posted signs in establishments down Florida way except for the (Duh) Post Office & County Court Buildings.
        Now as for consuming a meal in the dinning area you are just fine evn if alcohol is being served. Wine or beer or even a cocktail is fine along with your meal...just keep it in moderation. When the wife and I or friends go out for dinner, should I want a glass of wine with my dinner I just let the wife drive home....just use good common sense. Drinking and driving don't make sense and the same goes for carrying. Should the need arise that you have to defend yourself or loved one if your were imbibbing you will certainly loose what the law calls your veil of inocense...use your head and you will come to the right conclusion.

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        • #49
          I believe you're not breaking the law unless a private property owner sees your gun and asks you to leave. If you leave, you haven't broken the law. If you stay, then you're trespassing. I carry everywhere but the post office, never need to go to courts or other fed buildings. When I see a movie, I carry, even though I see the no gun sign.
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          • #50
            Here they have a picture of a gun with a black circle and a red slash over the gun, and has to be a certain size and posted at every entrance in the proper manner.
            I heard that the post office was busting people now for having guns in their car "on their property" That means if you pull into drop a letter in the mailbox and it's on post office property, they can bust your for having a gun on federal property, or leave your gun in the car while you mail a package or something. I heard on the radio that they busted some guy for having a gun in his car in the parking lot.
            I messed up one day and carried into a bank once. I just forgot I had it on. I realized when I went to grab my wallet and felt the holser. Fortunately it was jacket weather and I had a good sized jacket on so no one saw it.
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            • #51
              I may be mistaken, but I beleive in Florida you can carry at a bank. you are vulnerable especially while leaving such a facility . If someone out there feels that I am in error ,please feel free to correct me.

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              • #52
                Originally posted by thetmanski View Post
                Here they have a picture of a gun with a black circle and a red slash over the gun, and has to be a certain size and posted at every entrance in the proper manner.
                I heard that the post office was busting people now for having guns in their car "on their property" That means if you pull into drop a letter in the mailbox and it's on post office property, they can bust your for having a gun on federal property, or leave your gun in the car while you mail a package or something. I heard on the radio that they busted some guy for having a gun in his car in the parking lot.
                Somebody needs to challenge this kind of unconstitutional behavior by the post office in the Supreme Court.
                Very interesting...

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                • #53
                  I can't find anything using Google about anyone arrested for having guns on post office property. I heard about it on Sean Hannity or Mark Levin or one of those talk radio guys. Haven't heard anything since, but I don't listen to the radio much.
                  Tom
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                  Dan Wesson Revolver

                  HY*NDAI is to cars, what Caracal, Hi-Point, and Jennings is to handguns. The cars may or may not run ok, but the corporation SUCKS.

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