9mm Speer Gold Dot Short Barrel 124gr. +P

[wyntrout]

Hey! Who are you calling an OP?!

I bought 200 rounds of that Double Tap "GD" so I could shoot half to test it and still have enough for a couple of loads for all my 9mm clips. It seems DT doesn't make those anymore, so I need a replacement. These +P GD short barrel loads may be that.
What I can't wait to try is the Buffalo Bore 90-grain +P .380 in the P380, when I get it. Those puppies ought to buck a bit.
Wynn

[burns]

Here is a test from a short barrel Rohrbaugh (2.9") with Remington 147 gr. GS, and they did quite well:

9x19mm Remington 147gr Golden Saber JHP

[Vinikahr]

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I like to test my gun with at least 100(preferably 200) rounds of any ammo I would carry to make sure of proper function and accuracy.
Don't you?

Only will do 200 rounds with range ammo in the break in and test out the most 20 rounds SD (for proven defensive hollow points). The equation won't change by shooting so many SD rounds. Gun is a SD gun and shooting it more than 50 rounds after break in period would only add more cost to your cause. I am testing for functionality and reliability and not durability. I will test from time to time as the old ammo gets recycle.

As for cost effective the auction I linked to has a price of .50 per round for proven defensive hollow points shipped to you door. The OP paid over a dollar a round

Well, as I have indicated before,when your sell your stuff you take a lost twice because you pay a premium when you buy it and take a lost when sell it at a discount.

[wyntrout]

When I sold my ammo at a gun show, I was only trying to get back what I paid for it, and my prices are $10 to $20 less a box than the stuff on the tables. Next garage sale, I'll add "Ammo" to the ad and get a bigger crowd. People are looking for deals and I'll probably make money on the ammo as I did with my .380 Critical Defense. I paid under $20 a box shipped to the door when you couldn't find .380 and the dealers were asking $35 to $40 or more a box. I sold One box for $25 and 4 for $85 to a dealer. 9mm defense ammo was going for nearly as much.
Some of the excess 9mm defense stuff I bought before the big "shortage" for $10 to $12 a box for 20 to 25 rounds, but I can't see using it for range fodder as valuable as it is now.
Wynn

[Mr. S]

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Only will do 200 rounds with range ammo in the break in and test out the most 20 rounds SD (for proven defensive hollow points). The equation won't change by shooting so many SD rounds. Gun is a SD gun and shooting it more than 50 rounds after break in period would only add more cost to your cause. I am testing for functionality and reliability and not durability. I will test from time to time as the old ammo gets recycle.

Well, as I have indicated before,when your sell your stuff you take a lost twice because you pay a premium when you buy it and take a lost when sell it at a discount.

20 rounds is not enough to test functionality and reliability IMHO.
You say "proven defense hollow points" but they aren't proven until you test them in your gun with your magazines.

As far as selling goes If I bought the above Gold Dots I could easily sell them for what I paid (or more if I wanted to).

[500KV]

To me, (proven defencive hollowpoints) are those that the coroner has dug out of some perp.

[wyntrout]

To me, (proven defencive hollowpoints) are those that the coroner has dug out of some perp.

Those are "used" ones... well-used in many ways!
Wynn

[Vinikahr]

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20 rounds is not enough to test functionality and reliability IMHO.

Everyone have their own agenda, mine is not spending or wasting more that I do not have or want to.

You say "proven defense hollow points" but they aren't proven until you test them in your gun with your magazines. "As for cost effective the auction I linked to has a price of .50 per round for proven defensive hollow points shipped to you door."

These are your own words not mine. If I shoot one or two magazine and they cycle, I am good to go.

As far as selling goes If I bought the above Gold Dots I could easily sell them for what I paid (or more if I wanted to).

I am sure of that. And perhaps you may fall in less than 1% of people that would get their money back or make a profit in the process.

[jocko]

that is

I like to test my gun with at least 100(preferably 200) rounds of any ammo I would carry to make sure of proper function and accuracy.
Don't you?

As for cost effective the auction I linked to has a price of .50 per round for proven defensive hollow points shipped to you door.
The OP paid over a dollar a round

good to be able to do and also very expensive. Now my question is what if round 199 something happens . does that mean the ammo you tested for 199 rounds is not reliable. ???

any round, at any time can malfunction, just the nature of the beast, any gun at any time can malfunction, just the nature of the beast. I know some shooters state and this is their view to, not mine that if they load a magazine with 7 rounds and all go off, in a gun fight,,, then in there mind that is all they desire to happen..

We should all test defense rounds, that is a given, what constitutes a reliable round for ones gun, I guess is in the eyes of the beholder. I carry in my PM9 one magazne with 7 rounds, no spare. so after 7 shots in a gun fight, I could care less, but those 7 are very very important.

[Mr. S]

Vinikahr

I had a case of 124+p Gold Dots(paid 19.99 per 50 rounds) and sold most of them(and didn't lose any money) because I found I had quicker follow up shots with standard pressure rounds.
I did test them and they were reliable in my P9 and my G17 but I decided to go with standard pressure rounds instead.

[dfloresjr]

Quikduk, thanks for the link to "Best Choices for Self-defense Ammo." My reading tells me that in my 3.6" barrelled CW9, firing the Gold Dot 124+P is a good choice, which is what I have loaded. It's easy to fire, with only slightly more "snap" than Winchester white box 115g. My other thought was that if it's good enough for NYPD, it's good enough for me. Not a bad rationale, especially if it's ever possible you may be answering some lawyer's questions about why you picked that ammo. Massad Ayoob and others have talked about this, and Mas recommends never using handloads as self-defense ammo for this reason.

[CHLChris]

I have found in my PM9 that I can barely tell the difference in recoil from 124 gr. standard pressure in my FMJ range ammo to my +p 124 gr. SD ammo. Since the recoil is pretty similar, I'll go with +p every day of the week. I was thinking the recoil would be worse, so I am pleasantly surprised every time I run through an old box of my +p SD ammo.

[jocko]

Have to

I have found in my PM9 that I can barely tell the difference in recoil from 124 gr. standard pressure in my FMJ range ammo to my +p 124 gr. SD ammo. Since the recoil is pretty similar, I'll go with +p every day of the week. I was thinking the recoil would be worse, so I am pleasantly surprised every time I run through an old box of my +p SD ammo.

agree with you on that. +P gold dots and 125 grain +P corbon are very nice out of my PM9, course my PM9 is magna ported and that might have something to do with it to. By the way kahr factory shoots and sights their guns with 124 grain ammo.

Best advice ever given tome was shoot whats works perfect in your gun and what you feel most comfortable with. Certainly ammo is one thing we can all agree that we probably disagee on..