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    I have carried Corbon +P 115 Grain JHP in my K9 since day one. What results/opinions does everyone have with other +P ammo. How about Federal 9BPLE +P+ 115 Grain JHP?

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    I may be mistaken but I believe that Kahr advises that you avoid using +P+ ammunition in Kahr firearms.+P is OK along with standard pressure rounds.I got wrapped up in the +P vs standard pressure debate and ended up like a dog chasing his tail for a while.If you`ve had good success with the CorBon,then stick with it.There are a number of great choices available and you can have fun shopping around.You can end up spending a lot of money too.I found what I liked,got comfortable with my choice and am a lot less confused [about that issue anyway] and antsy about the "Will this work OK?"question.
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    • #3
      As I mentioned in another thread I'm a penetration over velocity guy so I decided on 147grn JHPs. I fired everything I could get over the last month and the best combination for me of accuracy and recoil was the 147s. I much prefer the 'push' of a 147 over the 'snap' of a 124.

      A saying I posted earlier from another forum I like is:

      "Small bullets may expand but big bullets dont shrink."
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      • #4
        Assuming you're concerned primarily with SD/HD and not barrier penetration looking at terminal ballistics shot into denim covered ballistic gelatin will help to decide what will likely work or not work for you. I believe the CorBon DPX 115 +P does very well but uncertain about the non-DPX offering. Some 9mm HP +P do well in bare gelatin but do not expand when shot into denim covered gelatin. Also, watch what length barrel is being used to test, a shorter barrel shooting the same round may not perform as well.
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        • #5
          I didn't think corbon made the dpx round in anything but +P. . That is one awesome round indeed, Hotter than a piss ant and full petal expansion every time due to the all copper Barnes bullet. Not cheap but neither is life.
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          • #6
            Originally posted by jocko View Post
            I didn't think corbon made the dpx round in anything but +P. . That is one awesome round indeed, Hotter than a piss ant and full petal expansion every time due to the all copper Barnes bullet. Not cheap but neither is life.
            Jocko,

            There are I believe two CorBon +P offerings. The OP did not say whether his 115 +P was the SD JHP offering or the DPX offering.

            I have a warm place in my heart for CorBon DPX ammo.
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            • #7
              I've become partial to several brands, mainly because they are reliable and I shoot them well at the range. They are the Hornady TAP round, Gold Dot 124gr. and the Winchester PDX1.
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              • #8
                If memory serves me right, penetrating fabric was an issue with Federal HydoShok ammo. It has a post in the center that caused the center to fill with fabric. The newer HST product penetrates fabric very well and as jmurch said, the 147 do better at this than the lighter bullets. For self defense I definitely carry +P.
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                • #9
                  I've always been a fan of Hornady tap 147gr. Seems to shoot very well.

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                  • #10
                    The Hornady FTX rounds have that little polymer flex tip that prevents the hollowpoint from clogging up with fabric.

                    It runs at Muzzle Velocity: 1140 fps and Muzzle Energy: 332 ft. lbs.
                    While it's not a +P round, it does look good on paper.
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by LaP View Post
                      The Hornady FTX rounds have that little polymer flex tip that prevents the hollowpoint from clogging up with fabric.

                      It runs at Muzzle Velocity: 1140 fps and Muzzle Energy: 332 ft. lbs.
                      While it's not a +P round, it does look good on paper.
                      It sounds like the FTX round is pre-clogged.

                      I only have one 9mm, the PM9, but I've always been partial to standard pressure HST's in 124 gr, which is what I carry. I'm not sure that I want to shoot +p's from such a small platform either for the gun's longevity or for my shooting pleasure.

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                      • #12
                        I believe that a steady diet of +P compared to standard pressure would indeed shorten the longevity of most pistols. I'd guess though that most who carry with +P don't feed it as a steady diet through their carry guns. I mostly see/read/hear folks shooting the carry ammo that is in their guns and then mostly switching to practice ammo (E.g. WWB) for the rest of their session with that gun. It is what I do, for the most part, with all of my carry pistols.
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                        • #13
                          Where I live in Kansas I feel safe carrying JRN bullets in 115 gr. I don't know anyone around here that can take 2 of those in the chest and continue an attack. After all it is less bullet design and more bullet placement. +p's are not needed here.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Ikeo74 View Post
                            Where I live in Kansas I feel safe carrying JRN bullets in 115 gr. I don't know anyone around here that can take 2 of those in the chest and continue an attack. After all it is less bullet design and more bullet placement. +p's are not needed here.
                            True, however when the SHTF, I doubt you can concentrate and put those hits exactly where you want. Remember, your heart rate will be pounding, your adrenaline pumping, your nerves firing, time will stand still and move at 100 mph at the same time, etc... You need a quality JHP to give you the best odds that you'll stop the attacker and a +P load will give you the velocity to make sure those bullets have enough energy to expand when they hit the target . Let's be serious. We've all heard stories where a guy didn't even know he was shot and conversely where 1 .22 shot has killed someone. Why take chances? Wise people stack the odds in their favor as much as possible.
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                            • #15
                              I've ran about half a box of Federal BPLE, 115gr. +P+ JHP, through my CW9 with no issues. I've ran several self defense loads through my CW9 including HST 124gr +P, HST non-+P, Remington 115gr JHP, Gold Dot 115gr JHP, Federal 115gr JHP and can't tell a helluva lot of difference in recoil with any of them.

                              I doubt that many of us will pay the money to run enough +P+ or +P ammo through our guns to do any real damage other than possibly a recoil spring replacement.

                              I say shoot what functions in your gun and you can hit what you are aiming at.

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