Hornady, what's your opinion/support?

[Bawanna]

I'm sure Joyce Hornady is rolling over in his grave at the idea of them naming ammunition like that.
I like Hornady stuff, I've used alot of the their bullets reloading in the past.

I think the Zombie name was a huge error on their part. I'll still use em, I think they are good stuff. I have very little experience with their loaded ammunition so no comment on that.

[tv_racin_fan]

Lets see... dang can't use Hornady because of the Zombie thing.. can't use Remington because of the magazine/clip thing... can't use Ruger because of the ten round limit thing... can't use Smith and Wesson because of the stupid lock thingy.... can't use Taurus because of the silly 45 colt 410 thingies... sheesh guess I might just as well sell all my firearms.

[Bawanna]

We do seem to be overwelmed with negative lately huh?

How much for the whole batch?

[MO_Soldier]

I would have to agree with the statement in the link you posted Mr. S, If I have to shoot threw a windshield or a trunk then I am probably going to jail. Sure there are some odd circumstances you can never account for, but I am worried about passing through the bad guy and hitting somebody else. Even worse I am worried about shooting and missing and the bullet going through the wall and injuring some innocent.

Personally...I'm military, and train with the utmost gun control. I understand human error...but if I were the bad guy and were to encounter an armed citizen, I would definitely find a barrier to better my chances. As that armed citizen, I hope that my adversary isn't that smart...but IF he is, I don't want rounds that won't go through his cover; then my odds are against me.

My bullet is going to go where I want it to. And for the off chance that it doesn't, I should have already planned for what's beyond my target. I know there are A LOT of conditions that one can never predict, but I want a round that I can count on hitting my target no matter what he decides to do. That's why I want the new Critical Duty round.

We do seem to be overwelmed with negative lately huh?

How much for the whole batch?

Yes Bawanna...it seems that way! haha. I can't seem to get much Hornady support on this thread.
I have only found 25 and 250 round orders. Prices being $20/$170 respectively. That's for CDefense though. I haven't found any retailers carrying CDuty....YET!

[muggsy]

Hornady

Love their ammo. Hate their advertising. I'm also quite fond of Speer and Remington Golden Saber ammo.

[muggsy]

Hornady, love their ammo. Hate their advertising. I'm also quite fond of Remington Golden Saber and Speer ammo.

[MO_Soldier]

Love their ammo. Hate their advertising. I'm also quite fond of Speer and Remington Golden Saber ammo.

I did a lot of looking around at terminal ballistics before I even decided what caliber I wanted. Through all of my looking, Golden Saber was the best, so that was my first carry ammo. But shortly after buying it, I came across a lot of bad reports of their tips clogging from clothing. I couldn't have that and switched immediately.

Speer and Federal I'm uncomfortably unfamiliar with though. I'm really opening myself up for attacks with that statement, being so strongly biased towards Hornady, but I just haven't found that much third party ballistics information on the rounds.

[LaP]

I guess the dummest thing I can add to this thread is that I carry Hornady FTX and/or XTP ammo in my pistols. It's also rumored that I load Gold Dot 124gr.

[FLBri]

That statement came from someone at Hornady about their Critical Defense ammo.Its ironic they say that when Critical Defense isn't designed to work on barriers.
But now low and behold they have a new "Critical Duty" round available that addresses that concern.

Anyway back to the original topic..Do you have an opinion on Hornday?

I was alone (thankfully) at my office about a year ago late at night and while practicing pocket draw I was distracted with a phone call. Post call I went back to the draw, but forgot that I had reloaded my SP101. I am embarrassed to confess to my one and only accidental discharge. The Critical defense 38sp. +P went through3/4" plywood, 5/8" fire rated drywall with plaster, 3.5" of fiberglass insulation, and another layer of drywall into the next office over. I never found the slug, and it was not a large room in the unit next door.

Scared the Shyte out of me ... but it I found it will penetrate SOME!

[Knight92]

Don't get me wrong I carry the Critical Defense ammo, as I feel this is the best I can obtain at a regular basis. If I could come across some Ranger T's or HSt's in town I might purchase those but, I have not come across any of those yet.

One of the guys in my LGS carries Critical Defense as well and that tells me something.

[MO_Soldier]

Don't get me wrong I carry the Critical Defense ammo, as I feel this is the best I can obtain at a regular basis. If I could come across some Ranger T's or HSt's in town I might purchase those but, I have not come across any of those yet.

One of the guys in my LGS carries Critical Defense as well and that tells me something.

What do you feel is more beneficial about the Ranger T's or HST's that the CDefense doesn't have? I'm unfamiliar with those rounds' terminal ballistics. How do they stack up to the new CDuty line?

What's LGS?

[MikeyKahr]

Local gun store.

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[Knight92]

The Ranger T's and HST's if I remember correctly are made to have sharp edges on the jacket curl, so as to inflict more damage and maybe with any luck hit an artery. Though the thing I don't like a lot, not all, of the Ranger T's and HST's are +p and don't like shooting the +p for self defense since I don't shoot it at the range.

This is the only real benefit I have seen, and from what little I have read seem to function just about the same as the Critical Defense, though they have better penetration if I remember correctly.

[MO_Soldier]

The Ranger T's and HST's if I remember correctly are made to have sharp edges on the jacket curl, so as to inflict more damage and maybe with any luck hit an artery. Though the thing I don't like a lot, not all, of the Ranger T's and HST's are +p and don't like shooting the +p for self defense since I don't shoot it at the range.

This is the only real benefit I have seen, and from what little I have read seem to function just about the same as the Critical Defense, though they have better penetration if I remember correctly.

Do you know if they have tip-clogging effects like some of the other HPJ's that I've read about like the Golden Sabers when passing through clothing or barriers?

[vn6869]

I like Hornady ammo and bullets, have reloaded with their bullets for years.

I like the CDef ammo, and use it in my PD weapon. Why?
I am suspicious of HP ammo jamming, just a mental thingy I guess.
Also suspicious of HP being clogged, just don't want to take the chance.

I also like PowRBall and Glaser ammo. I like the FMJ profile.
Don't care to have to spend the money to shoot 500 rounds of each type to make sure it will work in my particular gun.