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  • #46
    Originally posted by PYROhafe View Post
    Anyone tried the guard dog home defense? Its a fmjhp. Seems like it would be better against clothing n such cause the hp won't clog....
    Here's a review of it
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WA7f69skz9g&feature=plcp

    The Hornady Critical Duty and Defense should not clog with clothing either due to the tip

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    • #47
      I currently carry Speer Gold Dot 124gr +P. I have tried Hornady Critical Defense and had an issue with one of my 7 round magazines (yes I know) with the round failing to feed on the third round out of the magazine. I was able to repeat this twice. The round's nose stuck on the feed ramp. I was able to tap the back of the slide and put the round into battery and fire the rest of the magazines without issue. Goes to show you that you need to test your carry ammo! I have since polished my feed ramp, so this may be a moot issue now.

      I believe in any of the modern hollow point rounds that are available today, Gold Dot, Golden Saber, HST, RangerT, CDef, CDuty, etc. Any are a good choice. It matters more that the ammo functions properly in your weapon for you and that you can shoot it accurately. It also matters that you can afford the stuff. For instance CorBon is great ammo also, but it is so expensive I cannot afford to buy enough to test it in my weapon and therefor will not carry it.

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      • #48
        Best of the Best

        Speer GDHP 9mm 124 gr +P
        Federal HST 9mm 124 gr +P
        Winchester Ranger T-Series 9mm 127 gr +P+

        Take your pick.
        They are all winners!

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        • #49
          At the moment I use Federal Hydra-Shock since they aer easy for me to get at the local Walmart. I am one of the lucky ones as far as Wal Mart goes. Always some one there and always stocked with some ammo I need. Until I leave then they probably have no more 9mm or 380 left.

          What do you guys think of Federal Hydra-Shock?
          Last edited by gm412; 05-08-2012, 09:55 AM. Reason: spelling

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          • #50
            Originally posted by Barth View Post
            Speer GDHP 9mm 124 gr +P
            Federal HST 9mm 124 gr +P
            Winchester Ranger T-Series 9mm 127 gr +P+

            Take your pick.
            They are all winners!
            +1...I concur 100%.
            Virtues are learned at Mother's Knee

            Vices are learned at some other Joint

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            • #51
              IMHO Hornady Critical Defense is the flavor of the day for me.
              ___________________________________________
              Kahr CM9, Beretta PX4 SC .40, Dan Wesson .357, Ruger LCP/LM, Beretta 21A, 4 aces .22, Remington 12 gauge and Marlin 60.

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              • #52
                Speer +P 124gr, all the way. I've put over a hundred rounds of this down my PM9, and it feeds it flawlessly.

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                • #53
                  I use Federal HST 124gr but my PM9 seems to love any of the SD ammo I feed it. Speer, Federal, Golden Saber, or Winchester it just keeps juggin along.

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                  • #54
                    I use Federal 115 gr. +P+ (9BPLE) in my CM9. I know you're not supposed to use +P+ ammo in your gun but it feeds and extracts without fail and is exceptional accurate (the picture below was fired @ 30 ft. and yes I know I hung the shoot-n-c upside down). In addition I've heard from several sources that this ammo is really a +P loaded to the upper end of the SAAMI spec. Some will say that it is old technology and I agree with them but it was an effective man-stopper 20 years ago and I don't think the bad guys have developed an immunity to them in that amount of time.



                    The only other round I've tested in my gun is Winchester 124gr. +P PDX1. It functioned fine but was not as accurate as the 9BPLE (YMMV) and the recoil was about the same. But it's more readily available in my area so if 9BPLE becomes difficult to get I would have no concerns about switching to this.

                    Other excellent choices that I have used in other guns are:
                    CorBon 115gr +P (Ballisticly very similar to the 9BPLE)
                    Speer Gold Dot 124gr. +P Short Barrel

                    Obviously whatever round you choose needs to be tested in your gun before you trust your life to it.

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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by Mike_B View Post
                      Hmm. I was just getting ready to go out and get something to replace the Guard Dogs in my Sig.....
                      Eight inches of penetration in ballistic gel isn't enough. You want at least 12" of penetration in ballistic gel. The reason, ballistic gel has no bones.
                      Never trust anyone who doesn't trust you to own a gun.

                      Life Member - NRA
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                      Ruger Mark III .22-45
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                      • #56
                        quote: Eight inches of penetration in ballistic gel isn't enough.



                        I would not touch that sentence with a ten foot pole, no I take that back, a 20 ft pole: just sayin.
                        . My PM9 has over 34,000+ rounds through it, and runs much better than an illegal trying to get across our border


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                        • #57
                          any body using the 100gr +p powr ball?

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                          • #58
                            I carry a mixture of Hornady Critical Defense (115gr), Winchester PXD1 124gr +p, and Hornady 124gr XTP (handloaded to +p spec with Blue Dot). All 3 feed fine in the Kahr and aren't overly snappy.

                            I think some of the best 9mm rounds...
                            Speer Gold Dot 124gr +p
                            Hornady Critical Duty 135gr (heavier than Critical D - more penetration)
                            Hornady XTP 124gr +p (I've seen consistent expansion in tests I've watched)
                            Federal Hydrashok 135gr (another mid-weight round)
                            Federal HST 147gr
                            Winchester Ranger T 127gr +p+

                            Then again, just my opinion from tests I've watched.
                            Kahr CM9, 9mm
                            SW1911TA E Series Stainless, .45 ACP
                            Beretta 90 two, 9mm
                            -96 Vertec Stainless slide, .40 S&W
                            Ruger SR9c, 9mm
                            DPMS AR15 20" Hbar Upper,
                            -RRA National Match Lower

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                            • #59
                              If we assume that +p and +p+ takes a toll on your gun, and I shoot my defense load (and can afford to do it), what is the best round that is not +p or +p+?
                              Kahr P380, Custom CM9 x2, & PM45 or S&W M&P9c x2 (my CC guns)

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                              • #60
                                Originally posted by MikeG View Post
                                Really, with modern bullet design any JHP that feeds and goes bang 100% of the time will do the trick. Pick one you like and run a couple of boxes through your particular gun to make sure they get along and you're gtg.
                                +1

                                Select the ammo that goes bang the first time and every time. Both my MK9 and PM9 love both 124 gr Speer GD and 124 gr Rem GS, so I have a lot of them on hand.

                                Carl
                                Kahr MK9, PM9
                                Colt Combat Commander .45
                                Kimber Pro II .45

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