New Member - PM45 failure to feed

[Frankhenrylee]

I've wondered if the failure to feed on PM45's could be the larger size of the 230gr. bullets? I've been wanting to get one, but they still seem to have a bug or two. You might try smaller bullets or maybe some of the new Federal EFMJ's.

[astrorat]

Interesting thought about using a smaller bullet. I have only tried 230 gr from various manufacturers.

The PM45 is on its way back to Kahr. Ian was great in helping with the process...including having the Kahr pay for the FedEx shipping.

Now I just need to wait until it returns. Until then, I'll just need to have fun with my PM9!

Lane

[10Kahrs]

IMHO the PM45 is the most problematic of all the Kahrs because of such a small frame for the platform my first PM45 had to back to kahr 2x before they got it right. It was flawless after kahr sent it back the 2nd time. Its worth a little work to have one of the smallest best concealable 45 out there you just have to work the bugs out sometimes also if you send it back ask them to replace the mag catch release (if its the old style) they can be a problem too if you have the old style I found the remington GS 185gr to work real good for the PM45 and I have tired alot of brands. The 200gr gold dots also good luck

[astrorat]

IMHO the PM45 is the most problematic of all the Kahrs because of such a small frame for the platform my first PM45 had to back to kahr 2x before they got it right. It was flawless after kahr sent it back the 2nd time. Its worth a little work to have one of the smallest best concealable 45 out there you just have to work the bugs out sometimes also if you send it back ask them to replace the mag catch release (if its the old style) they can be a problem too if you have the old style I found the remington GS 185gr to work real good for the PM45 and I have tired alot of brands. The 200gr gold dots also good luck

What's the difference between the old style and the new style mag catch release?

Lane

[jocko]

the old style was a polymer mag catch, I was under the impression the PM45 never came out with the polymer mag catch as they were all metal by that time. Did your PM45 have a polymer mag catch 5 khars????

[astrorat]

the old style was a polymer mag catch, I was under the impression the PM45 never came out with the polymer mag catch as they were all metal by that time. Did your PM45 have a polymer mag catch 5 khars????

I don't recall. I think it was polymer, like my PM9. But I don't know for sure.

Lane

[10Kahrs]

No the original mag release was metal and I was dropping mags I ordered a new mag release from kahr on my dime and removed the old one and compared it to the new one the new mag release had a slightly larger lip which cured the problem I had taken photo's comparing the two and you could tell from the photo's the difference between the two. I should have kept the photo's.

[astrorat]

I now have the PM45 back from Kahr.

I sent it out last Saturday and they received it on Monday. They send it FedEx to me for Friday delivery and I picked it up today, Saturday.

That's a fast turnaround considering Ian estimated up to 2 weeks!

The work done according to the technical service sheet was:

1. Replaced recoil spring assembly
2. Replaced slide stop
3. Polished barrel
4. Lubed
5. Tested

It's off to the range later today. I'll report what happens.

Lane

[astrorat]

The PM45 worked like a champ. 100 rounds of Winchester 230 gr FMJ with out a problem.

Thanks, Kahr!

Lane

[rseseducation]

Kahr likes Golden Sabers

[kramm]

Hello all,
I'm a new member to the site.
I bought a pm 4544n on Feb. 4-10. My first outing to the range was great. I put 150 rounds through it with no problems. It was cold and my fingers were gettingnumb, so I called it a day.
My next trip to the range wastuesday last week. Since I had taken wwb ammo on my first trip I decided to take some Fed.&Rem. this trip. All were 230gr. fmj.
This trip was not so good. The first issue was that it did not pick-up the first round from the magazine. I had the slide locked open and used the slide release. The second issue was that the slide relaes lever would move outward and lock the slide open after a couple of rounds were fired. The third issue I had was the round would jam into the top of the barrel.
I took it home and cleaned it, I also checked the mag. springs as I had taken them apart and cleaned them after my first trip to the range.
I found some flashing around the hole for the slide release and removed that. All else looked OK to me. Took it back to the range the next day. The mag. release didn't lock the slide open when fired. But the other two issues remained.
I E-Mailed Kahr, their reply was to read the owners manuel. Ihad already read it.
It is on it's was back to them.

[Vinikahr]

Hello all,
I'm a new member to the site.
I bought a pm 4544n on Feb. 4-10. My first outing to the range was great. I put 150 rounds through it with no problems. It was cold and my fingers were gettingnumb, so I called it a day.
My next trip to the range wastuesday last week. Since I had taken wwb ammo on my first trip I decided to take some Fed.&Rem. this trip. All were 230gr. fmj.
This trip was not so good. The first issue was that it did not pick-up the first round from the magazine. I had the slide locked open and used the slide release. The second issue was that the slide relaes lever would move outward and lock the slide open after a couple of rounds were fired. The third issue I had was the round would jam into the top of the barrel.
I took it home and cleaned it, I also checked the mag. springs as I had taken them apart and cleaned them after my first trip to the range.
I found some flashing around the hole for the slide release and removed that. All else looked OK to me. Took it back to the range the next day. The mag. release didn't lock the slide open when fired. But the other two issues remained.
I E-Mailed Kahr, their reply was to read the owners manuel. Ihad already read it.
It is on it's was back to them.

Welcome to the board.
Some have indicated to read the manual at least twice.
Bummer for your troubles, Kahr stands behind their products.

[Vinikahr]

Kahr likes Golden Sabers

Yes they do.:hungry:

[kramm]

Welcome to the board.
Some have indicated to read the manual at least twice.
Bummer for your troubles, Kahr stands behind their products.

Thanks for the welcome. I have heard nothing but good things about Kahr service. I really like the pm45, I do hope they can get it going.
I'll try some golden saber . __________________

[hsart]

I am starting to think that most PM45 problems like these may be solved by:
1. loading first round with slide lock lever, and
2. making sure there is no limp wristing.