New PM45 Range Test

[DKD]

Golden Sabres

Hey gents,

About them golden Sabres; first Copper gilding metal used in bullets is quite soft. The Golden sabres are not brass. Brass is an alloy metal and harder than a base element like copper. They are using an aluminum alloy that looks like brass in color only. As was stated before they won't hurt anything, as a matter of fact my PM45 loves them 185 grainers....one ragged hole at 7 yards and 1 1/2" group at 15 yards.

[wyntrout]

Bologna or baloney! The jacket is cartridge brass. Aluminum isn't normally found in handgun or rifle ammo... other than the case.

All of the Golden Sabers are BRASS Jacketed Hollow Points and then there are the BONDED ones:

RemingtonMilitary.com

Research isn't hard, but blurting nonsense like that is silly.

Wynn

[Bawanna]

Bologna or baloney! The jacket is cartridge brass. Aluminum isn't normally found in handgun or rifle ammo... other than the case.

All of the Golden Sabers are BRASS Jacketed Hollow Points and then there are the BONDED ones:

RemingtonMilitary.com

Research isn't hard, but blurting nonsense like that is silly.

Wynn

Goodness gracious Wyn, I've never seen an outburst like this from you especially to a new guy. You take your meds this morning? Reading your attachment I believe you are correct but lets go just a little easy on the new guy. Hmmmmm. DKD deserves better than this. Now go sit in the corner and watch the alligators in the pond, I'll tell ya when you can come out. We'll call this the Kahrtalk timeout.

[wyntrout]

Gee... it says Brass Jacketed Hollow Points and the information at the Remington Sites says the jackets are made of cartridge brass. I research the stuff I use and TRY not to make dumb statements like that.

The Golden Saber gets its name from the golden color of BRASS:

Golden Saber
Overview:

Dead-serious bullet innovation. A superior bullet for when the stakes are at their highest. Designed for law enforcement and personal defense, the Golden Saber High Performance Jacket successfully combines: match-type accuracy, deep penetration, maximum expansion and near 100% weight retention.
Key Features:

* High-performance jacket (HPJ) handgun ammunition built around revolutionary hollow-point bullet design
* Jacket made entirely of cartridge brass, which releases energy over longer distance while mushrooming
* Spiral nose-cut feature permits mushrooming at lower velocity without sacrificing penetration or terminal performance
* Primer and mouth waterproofing standard
* Cases nickel-plated for reliable feed, function and extraction



Golden Saber HPJ Bonded Ammunition

Golden Saber HPJ Bonded

Golden Saber Cartridge

Golden Saber Bonded is the ultimate extension of our revolutionary Golden Saber HPJ bullet concept. Through an exclusive Remington process, the lead core is hot-bonded to the brass jacket. The result is exceptional weight retention - up to 97% when fire through automobile glass - while maintaining phenomenal terminal performance when shot through heavy clothing or into bare gelatin. And the bonding process does not cause a reduction in accuracy performance - jacket and core concentricity and resulting gyroscopic balance has been maintained to deliver match-grade accuracy.

Unlike competitive bonded handgun bullets, expansion, penetration, weight retention performance when fired through barriers such as wallboard and plywood has actually been improved. The unique design and bonding process also produces a bullet that requires less energy to initiate expansion. At the same time, the jacket stiffness and wall thickness is designed to eliminate over-expansion, thus maximizing penetration. These ultra-high performance characteristics make Golden Saber and Golden Saber Bonded ideal for overall law enforcement applications.

I think Jocko would have been in there if I hadn't said something.
Wynn

[Bawanna]

Not questioning your wisdom or Jocko's for that matter. Just a little harsh ya know what I mean Vern? He's shooting ragged holes at 7 yards, might want to practice a tiny bit of polite. Or not.

ok bye.

[Bawanna]

Wyn, 17 to go, better start a thread or something big, hit the 1000 mark on April Fools day. A day that will go down in infamy. Loosen up them fingers and get at it.

Oh, you can come out now, timeout is over. Say your sorry to somebody and we'll move on...............

[wyntrout]

Apologize... huh? Speaking of bucket mouths, you had better oil those wheels, I can hear ya closing on me! There's only the Oracle in front of me and he's almost 500 ahead! he must be out riding his bike to the range to shoot or something. Anyhow, you're about to run over or by JohnH and the only other contender is Vini' back at 707. Then there's a big gap to the next guy, Dietrich at 464. it's amazing how many of us started in September and how many posts we have. I joined the P380 Forum first, and I still have only 40 posts there and there are only 6 guys with more and only two over 100... Jocko the leader at 338 is the only "Senior" and Kraigster414 the Global Moderator 162. at Everyone else is a newbie! It's pretty quiet over there. I might make Senior Member there by the end of this year, IF I get my P380 and start using it. I go over there at least once a day, but there's nothing going on.
Dang! I need to get something going on here. I have piles of piles of stuff to go through and I haven't even done my taxes. I'm sure we'll owe money because of all the "temporary stimulus" money we're going to have to pay back.
Later!
Wynn

[wyntrout]

New PM45 Pre-Range Check

Okay, for my 1,000th post I'll put a link here to #999 about "pre-flighting" your PM45, and some others. http://kahrtalk.com/general-discussi...html#post17700
I posted the most common recent problems and some of the pictures of those.

Hey, Bawanna! This is #1,000!
Wynn

[Bawanna]

Okay, for my 1,000th post I'll put a link here to #999 about "pre-flighting" your PM45, and some others. http://kahrtalk.com/general-discussi...html#post17700
I posted the most common recent problems and some of the pictures of those.

Hey, Bawanna! This is #1,000!
Wynn

I'm beside myself with pent up emotion here. Never spending any time on forums before this one and no others I feel kind of nieve and unexperienced. To actually witness the 1000 mark? well it takes my breath away.
I intended to make my first attempt at a batch of Mr. Dietrichs Molasses bread tonight (I'll skip the part where I'm suppose to be nekid). I think perhaps it would be fitting if we put some candles (not 1000) on it to commemorate and recognize your achievement, wait! Oh we're ok yesterday was the play nasty tricks day so I have to believe this is real although I'll probably never take delivery of the 6 full automatic rifles I ordered on that other deal.
Congrats Mr. Wyn. Perhaps I'll whittle out a set of K9 handles with a fitting 1000 pins inlaid for your adopted step child K9 that you don't love anymore. Maybe make it feel better in nothing else.

[wyntrout]

Thanks, Bawanna. I searched for you to let you know this, but I didn't want to interrupt that post on the jammed CW40 with a live round in the chamber! Holy Crap! I hope that turns out okay!
I'm real careful when I reinsert my slide lock pins now, making sure they go through the hole thingie on and under the barrel. I also note my retainer spring position for the slide release.

Now, I can go see if I can finish up the pile of newspapers on the card table in the "dining room". I'm saving the comics and Jumbles to read or complete. I started with March 19 a while ago and want to finish up and put the bulk of those in the recycle bin. Then I can start to work on all of the catalogs, flyers, magazines, INCOME TAX, and other stuff lost in the various piles! So bye for now!
Wynn