Will do. Do you recommend dry firing with snap caps or are they unnecessary?
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Yeah that's what my Glock 19 and Walther PPQ is for. I AM keeping 95% of the rounds fired within the torso picture. I guess I'm too much of a perfectionist.Originally posted by jocko View Postjust keep shootin. I use ther FBI ":Q" bolwling pin type silhouette. Its a big target, meant to be human torso, keep um allin there, forget about the groups sh!t. try hard but again forget about it. Keep um allin that target and ur good to go for defense, when you wnato hit beer cans at 25 yards, BUT ANUTTER GUN FOR THAT..
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They are unnecessary, but I have them, so I use them. They certainly can't hurt.Originally posted by wtim View PostWill do. Do you recommend dry firing with snap caps or are they unnecessary?
Even more helpful than snap caps is a LaserLyte cartridge. They allow you to see your hits. And you can tell if there is any gun movement when squeezing the trigger, because the laser will "smear" your target. These are a bit pricey, but ammo isn't cheap either. It doesn't take much use to pay for themselves.NRA Life Member
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lets put this 95% thing into proper perspective. U might thing that is maybe not good but look at it this way.Originally posted by wtim View PostYeah that's what my Glock 19 and Walther PPQ is for. I AM keeping 95% of the rounds fired within the torso picture. I guess I'm too much of a perfectionist.
Line up 100 Muzzy terrroists, shoot 100 times, u kill 95. That would be 95%.. Now for me I would call this a good day at the range. Just sayin
. My PM9 has over 34,000+ rounds through it, and runs much better than an illegal trying to get across our border
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The CM9 has been giving me a little trouble too. But I have only been out with it twice. I know it's me.. If I take my time it's pretty damn accurate. It's just really hard for me. I shoot XD's and XDM's which have a way different trigger. I'll tell you what. After shooting the Kahr and going back to the XDM, I shoot the Springfield WAAAAAY better. I think it makes me concentrate on my grip more trying to pull the shots to the center with the Kahr. Practice, practice, practice."A FREE PEOPLE OUGHT TO BE ARMED"
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PM9 doesn't shoot straight
I too though my PM9 was to blame for inaccuracies. I thought it was the sights, barrel...nope, it was me. I can shoot my G19 by instinct and put 10 of 10 in the 10 ring at 7 yds. With the Kahr this isn't the case. That trigger demands more of the shooter. I have to really concentrate if I want to hit bulls, but now drawing from a holster and double tapping a silhouette at sd ranges is not a problem. Practice practice practice.A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.
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OK... took a little while. Been fighting an arthritis type disease so my hands and wrists have been iffy. Shooting the Kahr better. Still no bullseyes but if all shots hit the head on a silhouette target at 7 yards I'm happy. I love everything else about this gun. I just wish it was as instinctive as the Glock. Still my EDC 'cause it's just so perfect. It sure shoots smoother every time I take it to the range. It's a solid little gun doesn't rattle like my G19.
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Originally posted by wtim View PostOK... took a little while. Been fighting an arthritis type disease so my hands and wrists have been iffy. Shooting the Kahr better. Still no bullseyes but if all shots hit the head on a silhouette target at 7 yards I'm happy. I love everything else about this gun. I just wish it was as instinctive as the Glock. Still my EDC 'cause it's just so perfect. It sure shoots smoother every time I take it to the range. It's a solid little gun doesn't rattle like my G19.
wtim:
Good job persevering, you will continue to improve with practice.
I also suffer with the arthritic wrist/thumb joints, but I think the PM/CM is the best gun for me because it seems to have the lowest barrel to grip ratio and I think that it has the least felt recoil because of that.
Also I prefer the heavier "boolits" 124's and 147's because they seem to push rather than snap like the 115's. YMMV.
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I had problems with my CM 40 shooting low. I bought a laser bore sighter and the sights were right on.
Changed to night sights. Way better sight picture in good light. First shot was dead center bullseye. Next two missed the target!
OK CONCENTRATE. Put the next 30 in the 10 ring.
The Kahr trigger takes a lot of getting used to, especially for a Glock shooter. There is no reset point, and no feel for when it is going to break.
Most of the time it turns out to be the shooter.
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My advice would be to ditch the laser until you learn how to handle the PM9. I will go out on a limb as well and say that it sounds like its your technique not the gun. Additionally, it's ok to learn how to shoot properly and gain advice. Heck we all had to learn. Good luck to you and you made a wise choice with the PM9.PM40... My EDC. Just Sayin'
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Dry fire practice will help you. Spend a few minutes every day getting used to that trigger. Don't take off the laser. Use the laser as a dry fire practice tool. It takes time to get used to these small handguns. It will come. It is not the gun. IT took me some time to get used to my PM40 too. Good thing you did not go with a 40....haha. Seriously....it will come and you will be glad you took the time to get used to her.Originally posted by wtim View PostWill do. Do you recommend dry firing with snap caps or are they unnecessary?My Sword - PM4044N/CTL/Talons
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lots n lots of dry fire practice....
The whole trigger finger/muscle memory thing.... its like learning to walk again.
I'm not a great shot with my Kahrs. It took a lot of practice and dry firing to be.... maybe a passable ok shot.
I have shot bullseye pistol in the past with 1911 and Ruger .22 and did ok in the 280's with the Ruger. Shooting the Kahr was like ... ****... anoher world of trigger control.
Now I realize that I'm not bullseye shooting and I want to be able to hit a person in the middle without much thought or error, and it only needs to be at about 20 feet away max. I can do that now. I can even double tap into a full size target with repeatable results. And I can keep a group at 7 meters in about the size of a pie plate. That sucks for a bullseye shooter! It really really really sucks. But I'm also satisfied with it because of the nature of how I expect to (hopefully never) use the pistol.
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ur on target there cjb. one has to know what heis buying a certain kind of gun for.. My PM9 has over 34,000+ rounds through it, and runs much better than an illegal trying to get across our border
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