PM45 6-round magazine spring catatrosphic failure!

[wyntrout]

Here's the picture from earlier in this post with the original springs and mags. I also placed one new 18-coil spring for the 7-round magazine in the lineup for comparison.



I just took some pictures of the six 14-coil springs on the left, then two new 14-coil springs, and then two new 18-coil springs. The leftmost six have taken a set which is too short for the 7-round mags. This you can see in the first photo where they only protrude an inch and a half or so... totally inadequate in the longer tube.

And, yes, the .45 springs are stronger, having slightly larger coils.

Wynn

[livefreeordie1]

10 mags for a 380 pocket pistol? I call BS.

[wyntrout]

Dang! I can only find 8 and only two of those are 7-rounders. I thought I had more of those. I may have misplaced a few 7-rounders after prepositioning them or packing them for our last road trip.

I did find 14x 9mm, 11x .40, and 9x .45 Kahr mags... actual personal ones, not counting those 1911 Officer models I have for the PM45... or the 9mm or .45 Kahr mags I have in my 200+ inventory of Glock, 1911, Kahr, and Ruger pistol mags that my wife and I try to vend at local gun shows.

I did have a dozen P380 mags when I had two of them briefly.

I really have a lot of Glock mags. I load up a dozen or more for the range, especially when my son visits and we go to the range.

I don't skimp on mags.

Wynn

[wyntrout]

Yep! I found a picture of the two P380's with 11 mags shown and one not shown... the one where I blackened the baseplate and made that one spare parts after trying to modify the feed lips too much. So I have two mags somewhere... probably loaded and in a box for a trip.

I briefly had two P380's and sold the later one because my wife couldn't rack it... or any of my Kahrs. Two mags went with it.

Wynn

[wyntrout]

10 mags for a 380 pocket pistol? I call BS.

BS? Is that hostility? I prefer to not put my faith in one... two... or even just three mags. Things break, get lost, and it's handy to have defense loaded mags as well as a bunch for the range. I don't have to empty and reload with all FMJ for a trip to to the range.

Wynn

[livefreeordie1]

My apologies, I'll try to be nice.

[DavidS]

............................................I don't have to empty and reload with all FMJ for a trip to to the range.

Wynn

Hmmmm. I had not thought of that when trying to figure out why I would need more mags. Guess I will start looking. Thanks.

[b4uqzme]

You can never have too many mags. Problem is...I always have never enough money.

[Bawanna]

Especially in 380. More mags the merrier.

[wyntrout]

My apologies, I'll try to be nice.

No problem! Just yankin' your chain. Most people think two are enough... some... even the ONE that came with their pistol. They cry the loudest when their only mag breaks... we've seen that happen a lot with the chea... er, value-priced models. 3 mags is a minimum, because I carry a spare with every pistol and 3 becomes 2 becomes 1 and even 0. One of my favorite pistols... the PM45... had ALL of the Kahr mags fail... 9! That's why I should rotate guns through trips at the range instead of just a few favorites. The PM45 is one that I had for home defense... positioned with extra loaded mags... all of which were found to be broken or unreliable.

When my wife could rack my G23C but not my Kahrs, I sought a G19 for her "battle pistol". The first thing I did was try to get at least 10 mags before I even got the pistol. At the time, I was lucky that a fellow member here had what I needed and at a decent price... before things really got crazy.

I have a lot of magazines and ammo that will be worth more than paper money if things go to hell, which is a good thing, because we don't have much money as my wife has been without a job for about a year and a half. And... my lottery investments have been less than uplifting... financially!

Wynn

[wyntrout]

I did find the two missing .380 mags in a drawer kitchen where I have a lot of stuff as well as the usual resting place for for the P380. holsters, and extra loaded mags. There were one 6-rounder and one 7-round extended grip. That makes 10 serviceable .380 mags. I knew they were someplace, but they had been pushed to the rear of a deep drawer.

I saw a couple of CT-380's at the gun show today... one was only $299.99, but I need money to pay off credit cards that I used to buy inventory for our gun show vending "hobby"! We did manage to pay for the table today... $90, though I had greatly reduced prices and washes on some sales... trying to reduce inventory and free up some of the probably $5k+ that I have in magazines!

Wynn