New PM9 broke after 25 rounds--update--CS A+ on fix

[Seahawk60]

i recently bought a ruger 10/22 which is arguably the most used 22 in the world and is renowned for its reliability. mine was bad out of the box. had to do a full takedown and reassemble with some "cleaning up" of poorly tooled parts.

Why would you go through all that BS instead of exchanging it or sending it back to Ruger to be fixed properly? Sounds like it was brand new since you said "out of the box".

[Atilla]

Good news from kahr

I will say Kahr CS did all they could for me and my busted PM9. Why it broke after 25 rounds is beyond me. Eoin sent me an email this morning saying the gunsmith replaced the trigger bar and it test fired fine. I will have it back tomorrow--turnaround in 4 business days. He also said I should get a refund for my shipping charge.

So Kahr CS is A+ for me so far, especially if the PM9 is reliable.

Now why the thing broke, and how long it will take me to regain confidence in it is another matter. I have seen posts here and on 2 other forums concerning PM9 trigger bars. My MK9 has never had such problems (knock on wood)--I wonder if the part and attendant springs are exactly the same?

[Bawanna]

It may be premature but I'm logging this one in as a happy ending. The trigger bar was suspect to many of us layman here. There's apparently been a few bad ones let out the door.
Also proves once again that contrary to what many folks think Kahr will make things right given half a chance.
One less valium I'll have to take today, I'm borderline filled with joy due to this happy report.
Hope she gives you nothing but love and restores your confidence very quickly.

[Hank Hill]

It may be premature but I'm logging this one in as a happy ending. The trigger bar was suspect to many of us layman here. There's apparently been a few bad ones let out the door.
Also proves once again that contrary to what many folks think Kahr will make things right given half a chance.
One less valium I'll have to take today, I'm borderline filled with joy due to this happy report.
Hope she gives you nothing but love and restores your confidence very quickly.

It doesn't explain why Kahr had taken 3 weeks on mine an d all they could tell me was it was "in queue," still.

[Bawanna]

Guess I was premature, I better double up on the valium, and drift away for a week or so to gather my thoughts and see if I can locate what little might be left of my mind.

I'll be 10 10 on the side.........................

[wyntrout]

They've had my PM45 since the 20th (fourth trip... third was to replace slide... and the barrel) and I haven't heard anything, yet. I kind of expected it to just show up today. It got a new trigger bar the second trip. back, along with a new slide(poorly engraved) and recoil spring assembly. It was having occasional light primer strikes and the trigger not resetting properly. Now it eats magazines.
I think they maybe waiting until they assemble the right people and the celestial alignment for the exorcism... or something.
I did get a new toy delivery today... LG Prime cell phone to play with. The dang thing has a MICRO USB port for data and charging. I had just ordered a bunch of mini-USB cables and adapters.<sigh>
Wynn

[RogerP9fan]

Hey Wynn! You're the first person to mention the same type failure I'm having with my P9. TFTR Trigger failing to reset. (I just made up the new acronym) but I'm certainly not making up the upsetting failure. Now, I see it happened to a Kahr veteran here. What causes this failure? My slide was also poorly engraved.
It's going back to Kahr and I hope they treat me with the same fairness and good customer service as our friend here. My P9 is new with only 200 rounds. This way I'll have a happy report to give and I won't contribute to Bawanna developing a valium addiction. We don't want anything bad to happen to him as we all like him very much.

[Bawanna]

I'm speechless. I feel a bit like Sally Fields. They like me, they really like me.

Kahr will take care of you my new BFF. I have no doubt. Your failure is most likely a trigger bar. Been a few bad ones. The secret is to avoid frustration, play with some of your other toys, exercise patience and work with Kahr, valium can't hurt. We've been hearing of some issues recently which contributes alot to my depression. I know the gun can and will be fixed but some guys just can't accept a trip or two back. It ain't right and it shouldn't have to happen but these little guns take a little tweaking sometimes. I think or at least I hope Kahr is tightening up a bit on the quality control also as we seem to go longer with fewer complaints or at least what we hear about here.

Its all good, send a email to the new Eion or however he spells his name. Describe your issues and send er in. Keep us posted.

Thanks much for your concern for my well being also, you've saved an otherwise dreadful and stressful day. I think I can sleep drug free tonight.

[tyrobins]

Hooray Kahr! Hope the pistol works like a dream for you Atilla.

[Atilla]

Just got it back, no range time today, ran some snap caps through and seems fine. Will blast 200 fmj tomorrow to begin break-in period all over. I know they say 200, I say 500+, especially after the trigger bar debacle. The trigger bar seems to be a real problem from what I read here and elsewhere. Since it's not a 'safety issue' (like Ruger's LCP recall)) I doubt they risk liability for not recalling for the trigger bar. It just hurts reputation to keep reading about people with trigger bar/spring problems.

[jocko]

and also

Just got it back, no range time today, ran some snap caps through and seems fine. Will blast 200 fmj tomorrow to begin break-in period all over. I know they say 200, I say 500+, especially after the trigger bar debacle. The trigger bar seems to be a real problem from what I read here and elsewhere. Since it's not a 'safety issue' (like Ruger's LCP recall)) I doubt they risk liability for not recalling for the trigger bar. It just hurts reputation to keep reading about people with trigger bar/spring problems.

the trigger bar is not a pandemic issue either. We have probalby seen maybe a dozen on this forum since it started up. Did they tell you what they did??/Was it the trigger bar?? Would be nice to know..Hoepfully you willbe good to bo.

[Hank Hill]

Took my new G26 (which replaced my new PM9) to the range for the first time today. Not so much as a hiccup.

Since this mystery seems to have been solved, and since I don't want to just be a burr under y'all's saddle...and since I have no further reason to be a member of a Kahr forum, I will bid you ado and close my account.

I appreciate all of your advice.

[Atilla]

The paperwork that came with the returned PM9 said replaced trigger bar test fired fine.

[jocko]

well

The paperwork that came with the returned PM9 said replaced trigger bar test fired fine.

the forum crew guessed that issue correctly. Glad they got it fixed for you. Now just go out and shoot it like you stole it...

[jocko]

thanks

Took my new G26 (which replaced my new PM9) to the range for the first time today. Not so much as a hiccup.

Since this mystery seems to have been solved, and since I don't want to just be a burr under y'all's saddle...and since I have no further reason to be a member of a Kahr forum, I will bid you ado and close my account.

I appreciate all of your advice.

for leaving the forum in style. Many would leave with their final post a real doozy. U chose to be professional in your comments. the G26 is one hell of a handgun. It will serve you well..