Looks like Sig Sauer is trying to compete with the Kahr PM9. They announced recently a new subcompact 9mm DOA about the same size and weight of the PM9. Looks like a P250 type trigger, with a hammer and not striker fired. Don't know for sure. What do you all think? Here's a link:Products & Services
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I think it looks like competition, but I did not see the specs comparing weight and size. It appears to be better fit in the mag base. However, Sig still doesn't make it in my caliber and I'm not sure of the advantage of the hammer over Kahr's mechanics. For me, I'm settled on Kahr and my caliber, so I see no advantage. But for the new buyer of a 9mm in this size product, I would definately take a close look at them both.My Sword - PM4044N/CTL/Talons
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frank: that is blasphemy to put the sig in the same class as the diamonback!!I wonder why that build up half moon thing is inside the trigger guard?? and why..
I don't find the gun ugly, I question a hammer though but again that is sig, they don't make a striker gun to my knowledge. At 25% more in weight, kahr again leaves the competition wondering how they can pull it off like that... My PM9 has over 34,000+ rounds through it, and runs much better than an illegal trying to get across our border
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I don't know about that little guy. Maybe if it came in 40 or 45 I'd warm to it faster, but as is it may take some time for those looks to grow on me.Attitude: it takes 43 muscles to frown, 17 to smile...and 3 for proper trigger squeeze.
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I suspect the half moon is to prevent trigger pinch. Why they didn't recontour the trigger guard remains a mystery.Originally posted by jocko View Postfrank: that is blasphemy to put the sig in the same class as the diamonback!!I wonder why that build up half moon thing is inside the trigger guard?? and why..
I don't find the gun ugly, I question a hammer though but again that is sig, they don't make a striker gun to my knowledge. At 25% more in weight, kahr again leaves the competition wondering how they can pull it off like that..
Won't be one those on my Christmas list, just not appealing to me in anyway.http://bawanna45.wix.com/bawannas-grip-emporium#!
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That slide lock lever sure is ugly... looks out of place, or an afterthought. 9mm and .45 versions might be interesting, but I'm not crazy about the hammer... watching it slowly come back while pulling the trigger. At least you can see that the hammer is down.
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Sig blasphemies their own guns with offerings like the P250 and the P238. Sig today is not the Sig of yesteryear. I wouldn't own a new production Sig.Originally posted by jocko View Postfrank: that is blasphemy to put the sig in the same class as the diamonback!!I wonder why that build up half moon thing is inside the trigger guard?? and why..
I don't find the gun ugly, I question a hammer though but again that is sig, they don't make a striker gun to my knowledge. At 25% more in weight, kahr again leaves the competition wondering how they can pull it off like that....... I carry a small gun to compensate for my huge pecker.
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Like the "Kahr" label, eh?
Wynn
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Frédéric Bastiat’s essay, The Law: http://mises.org/books/thelaw.pdf
Thomas Jefferson said
“A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have.”
and
"Peace is that brief glorious moment in history when everybody stands around reloading".
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Give it up (for one thing)
I do have to give it up to Sig for one thing - that flush magazine plate is one area that Kahr could take a lesson from Sig. Just sayin' (Tilos would say).
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Right, we still need some for the .45's. We could use a 7-rounder with extended grip for the P380, too, for a reload and the range... more is better... in ammo, anyhow!
Wynn
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Avatar: Wynn re-enlists his wife Desiree, circa 1988 Loring AFB, ME. 42nd BMW, Heavy (SAC) B-52G's
Frédéric Bastiat’s essay, The Law: http://mises.org/books/thelaw.pdf
Thomas Jefferson said
“A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have.”
and
"Peace is that brief glorious moment in history when everybody stands around reloading".
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