PM45....ported?

[oso1964]

how much louder is a ported .45acp. i understand it is only a pistol load. i have a o/u sporting clays shotgun and noboby can stand next to me the gun is so load even with hearing protection. also i put a muzzlel brake on my ar-15 same thing, nobody can stand next to me. like i said in case anybody has to read this twice, i understand that it is only a pistol load versus a rifle or shotgun load. i have never owned any handgun with a ported barrel, just wondering how much louder.

[jocko]

actualy the sound is redirected, so yes if your next to it , it will sound louder. I have shot very little without hearing protectors so what hearing I have left I don't intend to harm it any more. there is no way one can shoot a non ported revolver and say it doesnt bother them either, so if your not wearing protectors, shame on you.Guns are loud, so get over it, a 44 mag is going to be alot louder than a9mm , . I went through that macho stuff when I was a kid shooting back 50 years ago when protectors were not even around.. I have lost almost all my hearing due to the macho crap to.
I have shot ported (magna portr ) for over 30 years, with hearing protectors I notice nadda, zero, nothing, without them, yuup it loud, with or without porting. Ur not gonna tame down a 9mm with a 3" bbl on it anymore than a J frame smith. GUNS ARE LOUD.

The car window thing sounds like a scenario that has notr been proven one way or the other.That would not be a deterent to me one way or the other. Ported guns I have always said is not for everyone, but it always seems that most all of the negative comments come from people who have never shot ported guns.I think it was wyn who took some photos inside a range with a semi on a non portred gun, a kahr I believe and the flame out the front of that barrel was massive. We don't see it but it is there and his photos showed it big time, now would porting be any less, NO, Probalby be damn near impossable to differentiate between the flame coming out the front of the barrel and the ports even. Remember not all porting works the same either..

cjb: The best I can show you on my magna ported PM9 is to go to the kahr tech section and about the 20 thread down is jocko's cusotm PM 9. hit on that..That gun today looks exactly in every detail today as it did when I took those photos and it has over 31,500 runds down range.

Downside of porting is that if you dom't like it you now have slots in the slide and barrel, that is costly to replace..U could rebarrel it and leave the cool looking slide slots there as technically the gun is a tad lighter being ported..

[PaiN]

I've been going over my options based on prices and availability of pistols I'd want for EDC duty. I've also been switching between carrying a G19 and G30...which makes me really know I want/need a smaller pistol. The CM9s are no where to be found and by the time I get done with taxes and an extra mag (or buying on-line with FFL fees and such) the cost will be pushing $500. (FFL trans. fee from local dealers are $30-50!)
Chovyman's PM45 looks great, but I run into the money wall since it'll likely cost me close to $700 as will the PM9s I've seen locally, both used and NIB which are selling between $600-750. It is more than I can swing or want to spend on a carry piece.
I talked with the dealer this morning about this ported PM45. They have a 30day "function" guaranty on used guns and I asked(can't hurt, right? ) since PMs are supposed to have 2 mags can they either provide one or discount the price....They said sure, come in and we'll work up a better price.....So it looks like I'm picking this ported PM45 up and for under $500

The only other option that looks do-able too me is a Ruger LCR w/XS Big Dot. I can get one locally NIB for $419+tax but ....this would require stocking expensive .38s and .38s+P, I don't want to add another caliber... Since I'm sitting on a ton of 9mm and .45auto

[PaiN]

I got them down to $460.... This baby came home with me.
It is damn near spit shined too whomever had it previously didn't shoot it much. I grabbed a DeSantis Tuck This II the holster its a little think but will work until I find some nice leather... here's a few pics for you to enjoy.
Range report to follow...

[Bawanna]

Most definitely Magna Ported. It look absolutely gorgeous too. You got a sweet deal on that one and your gonna love that thing to pieces.

I'm curious how it shoots for ya. I magna ported my K40 but the PM45 hasn't got the treatment yet. Don't really need it but I think it looks cool and it surely can't hurt anything either.

[OldLincoln]

I agree it does look really good. It won't hurt anything as long as you don't set fire to yourself sitting down like you do.

[Catshooter]

Man! $460! You are the man! I am totally not a Magna Port fan but I'd'a had a hell of a time saying no to that beauty.

Keep us posted please.


Cat

[jocko]

you stole that gun for that price, especially with the dealers 30 day trial thing, U can't loose. A nice gun, and IMO u will love the ported PM45.. If it had one of those smaller holes, I wold tell you to put me on your contact list if by chance you didn't like it. Mr.Bawanna will be waiting for your full report, for he is just itchihng to port another gun...

[Bawanna]

you stole that gun for that price, especially with the dealers 30 day trial thing, U can't loose. A nice gun, and IMO u will love the ported PM45.. If it had one of those smaller holes, I wold tell you to put me on your contact list if by chance you didn't like it. Mr.Bawanna will be waiting for your full report, for he is just itchihng to port another gun...

Dang, now he's a mind reader too. I am itching to send another to magna port. It will happen one day. The marble sack is a bit light as usual but my day will come.

[kahrseye]

Wow, you did good. I would've bought it as well. The gun looks great and I can't wait to hear your report.

[PaiN]

I'm sorry to report....I seem to have inherited someones problem child.
I got 60 rounds through this PM45 of AE 230g and DPX1 and had to give up. The mags drop out every few shots(both). I had several stove pipes with a spent case, 3 complete FTEs with the case left in the chamber, 2 slide lock backs before the last round and 2 FTFs.

I should have kept that K9....maybe it was heavy, but the damn gun was rock solid...

[jeepster09]

I love ported guns.....

[Bawanna]

I'm sorry to report....I seem to have inherited someones problem child.
I got 60 rounds through this PM45 of AE 230g and DPX1 and had to give up. The mags drop out every few shots(both). I had several stove pipes with a spent case, 3 complete FTEs with the case left in the chamber, 2 slide lock backs before the last round and 2 FTFs.

I should have kept that K9....maybe it was heavy, but the damn gun was rock solid...

Don't look at it as a problem child, look at it as another kahrtalk personel challenge. We'll get that thing running.

Sounds like we might need a mag catch, maybe an extractor and perhaps new mag springs or new mags.

I'd do a thorough deep clean first, look over the mag catch for a chip or defect, same with the extractor.

Super clean and polish the chamber and feed ramp. Maybe heavy on the oil next test trip.

Chin up, you got lots of help here.

[PaiN]

Don't look at it as a problem child, look at it as another kahrtalk personel challenge. We'll get that thing running.

Sounds like we might need a mag catch, maybe an extractor and perhaps new mag springs or new mags.

I'd do a thorough deep clean first, look over the mag catch for a chip or defect, same with the extractor.

Super clean and polish the chamber and feed ramp. Maybe heavy on the oil next test trip.

Chin up, you got lots of help here.

Thanks for the encouragement....but I'm not going to play around with this PM45. Its got several issues and once my confidence is shattered on a gun I'll be hard pressed to get it back.
I'm calling the shop as soon as they open this morning. I'm going to ask for a return and store credit. They may want to send it back to Kahr, but I'm going to buck on this....In my experience, a gun with as many issues as this PM has is going to take a lot of back and forth to get right...The shop where it was bought is 50min drive away. I'm not going to run back and forth like a nut wasting gas(at +$4.00/gal) or pick up the tab to ship back and forth to Kahr.

[jocko]

u bought someones lemon that is for sure. a shame someone would sell or trade a gun that is giving issues withouut getting them fixed forst. Not ur fault, IMO, I would try to take it back tothe dealer and le them work with you, a good dealer should work with you..