PM45....ported?

[jeepster09]

I agree most horror stories about ported guns are from the "internet" experts they may never of seen a ported gun in person. I port every gun I get for the most part.

[jocko]

damn bawanna and I even proff read the damn thing befor eposting it, so if ur knocking it now, I should have sent the way I first did it and u would still be trying to figure out what I sad. Damn, I just can't please yu. did you falloutta your chair today or what???

[jocko]

you ol timers will admit that 50 years ago, if you seen hearing protectors we called the shooter a pus-y. or thought of it that way anyhow. I sold guns for 40+ years and in all those years if I sold a dozen hearing protectors I am probably exaggerating. course i didn't push them either for u know I was one macho s.o.b.. I have a super tuned super charged right hear aid that can hear two ants humping from 50 yards. The left ear just hangs their to balance my head out. I being a left hand shooter , that should tell u something. Harley riders love loud pipes, cities and small towns don't, so we travel alot with pipe money and that is not drug money but fines for loud pipes. I think it is the chair people that is causing all this crapola to. They are sneaky b-stards. so I am told. I kinda like to ride up next to one and he thinking I am going to give him the high sign but then just leg kicking him off the road!!!!

remember that ol great one..

[Bawanna]

damn bawanna and I even proff read the damn thing befor eposting it, so if ur knocking it now, I should have sent the way I first did it and u would still be trying to figure out what I sad. Damn, I just can't please yu. did you falloutta your chair today or what???

Not yet but the day ain't over either.

You please me immensely though. Don't ever forget that. Just cause you can't spel worth a damn don't mean I don't love ya to pieces. Not in any mano mano way ya understand.

[jocko]

Not in any mano mano way ya understand

it better not be

u chair people are like the fokking amish around here. they think they own toe road and there is horse sh-it allover the roads here, why not put a bag beind their asses like they do inbig city's. oh no, we don't want to piss the amish off, or else them might decide to even fly our Amiercan flag. Does ur chair leave a sh-t trail or is it the person in the chair??? Not that it makes a difference. If I can sue over ice cream I certainly can sue over some idiot in a chair leaving a poop trail down the street.

[PaiN]

Okay....from the life is strange dept..
The shop let three different shooters run the pistol(this PM45), they had flawless operation . In fact I'm told they did everything possible to instigate a failure and could not. Most of the shooting session is recorded just so I can see it....WTH?

Maybe I need basic gun handling lessions or something.......how embarrassing

[Bawanna]

I was very much afraid this would happen. Imagine how ticked you would have been to send it to Kahr and have them tell you they could find nothing wrong.
I'd not be discouraged and you certainly shouldn't feel bad in the slightest. It happens, we've seen it happen.
So now we just need to work on mating you up to the gun. Has to be a grip issue or something, sometimes habits are harder to fix than broken parts.
At least even if you give up and want to part ways you know the gun works, that should be a confidence booster by itself.

I'd not give up, the PM45 is a great little gun.

[Rainman48314]

Okay....from the life is strange dept..
The shop let three different shooters run the pistol(this PM45), they had flawless operation . In fact I'm told they did everything possible to instigate a failure and could not. Most of the shooting session is recorded just so I can see it....WTH?

Maybe I need basic gun handling lessions or something.......how embarrassing

Did anyone video you doing some shooting? Some here could be helpful if they could view it. Smaller guns require a proper and firm grip. Consider what ammo they used versus what you used. If you're looking to improve, keep the gun and it will tell when you have.

Good luck

[jocko]

To me it is very hard to explain limping a gun. I cannot limp any gun I own, even when I think I am trying. I think one has to really learn how to limp a gun as much as to not limp a gun\so PaiN, u should now have the cojnfidenced top tell yourself ur gonna getter done.

Kudos to your shop for doing wha tthey did to. I am sure kahr gets some perfectly fine guns back. Now all of this being said to, IMO if you for some unknown reason can't get it right with the PM45, indeed peddle it. I have stated many times a gun and the shooter have to mate up to be right and if it ain't meant to be then it ain't meanto to be.

Thanks tholugh for sharing this report, ..

[OldLincoln]

Pain, an awful lot of good shooters have discovered similar results, so please don't feel bad. Kahr is a different animal, more like a formula one car than a family car. Like many I had a few getting started but worked my grip through it until I got it right. You'll do the same. Besides you must be on the road to an expert shooter now that you have over 450 posts. Can you imagine how good Bawanna and Jocko are. Look out Top Gun!

[jocko]

what do u smoke Old lincoln?? can u get a gray contact high from being just in the same room. I can assure I shoot my kahrs (all of them) piss poor. Like to blame it on age but my G19 shoots right where I aim, so that shot the age thing out the winder. Kahrs as u stated are not the easiest guns to shoot accurately and their ulta light weights just brings new issues into things that was not there with guns like the 1911 or Beretta, or basicaly big frame gun..

Now bawanna shoots great, he always has a shooting rest with him..

[PaiN]

She is back home...
To hit on some of the questions asked, I analyzed my grip as much as I could and we talked much over and demonstrated grips at the shop. I'm not exactly a new shooter or new to Kahrs by any stretch. So nothing jumped out from that. I ran AE Red box and Win. PDX1 230g, the shop's people did the same, they also ran Blazer and a local commercial reload called Nutmeg. I saw the vid and it sure as hell looked like my PM was running well....It was even shot upside down with no problems...

I'm getting it back to the range tonight or tomorrow for a redo and I'll report back.
One thingy...When I brought it home the first time, this PM was drenched in lube, I mean soaked to the point of leaking out the seams. It was so clean I never bothered to go thought it before I took it out. Is it possible the gun was over-lubed and got sticky when I ran it? Then between me leaving it dirty and sitting a few day the gun dried out? Seems kind of a hocky explanation but I'm at loss here
One of the shooters liked it so much he told me "That gun is the most fun .45 I've ever shot"...???

[jlottmc]

That may be, I have no idea why sometimes I hear of people that has a gun that won't run, but when me or my buddies get to work with it, the gun is all business. I think it might be fun to shoot it, but then again, I like anything that goes BOOM.

[Bawanna]

She is back home...
To hit on some of the questions asked, I analyzed my grip as much as I could and we talked much over and demonstrated grips at the shop. I'm not exactly a new shooter or new to Kahrs by any stretch. So nothing jumped out from that. I ran AE Red box and Win. PDX1 230g, the shop's people did the same, they also ran Blazer and a local commercial reload called Nutmeg. I saw the vid and it sure as hell looked like my PM was running well....It was even shot upside down with no problems...

I'm getting it back to the range tonight or tomorrow for a redo and I'll report back.
One thingy...When I brought it home the first time, this PM was drenched in lube, I mean soaked to the point of leaking out the seams. It was so clean I never bothered to go thought it before I took it out. Is it possible the gun was over-lubed and got sticky when I ran it? Then between me leaving it dirty and sitting a few day the gun dried out? Seems kind of a hocky explanation but I'm at loss here
One of the shooters liked it so much he told me "That gun is the most fun .45 I've ever shot"...???

I agree the over lube theory is kind of hokey. Don't buy that. No problem with any of the ammo you mentioned. I never heard of nutmeg but if they run it and it works it must be ok too.
I sensed you were an experienced shooter which doesn't always mean a whole lot. I work with a guy, who absolutely can't shoot an XD. The way his hand is shaped it doesn't depress the grip safety. He gets a round off now and then but usually not. Just doesn't work for him.
The Kahr is a little more perplexing as other than hanging on you don't activate anything.
I'd just go for a good solid grip and see what happens. I can't think of anything they could have done unless he just took it apart to look it over and put it back together in some way that you had done wrong. Wasn't the slide stop coming out on you. If it didn't for them, what happened?
Good luck, I'm anxious to hear how you do next time out.

[jocko]

Over lubed, I would think not, u know enough about guns to know better than that to..