The small arms treaty is back!!

[Cokeman]

Are you trying to give us a heart attack? Geez!

[Cokeman]

Hey J,
We can't see anything that you are linking to on the Taurus forum because we are not members.

[JFootin]

Hey J,
We can't see anything that you are linking to on the Taurus forum because we are not members.

OK, I fixed it.

[MC1911]

treaty

Wasn't part of his oath of office to" protect and defend the constitution of the United States."

I would like an impartial group to look at his college admission records.

The birthers might be nutty , but they may have a point.

[Fredr500]

So what we should all do is:
A)When called say you don't live ther ant more.
B)Vote early

Then they will be caught trying to vote twice.

[Barth]

What is our life if we don't have our Freedom?

It's easy to get wound up about gun control.
It's like a pendulum in some respects.
We saw the Brady Bill come and go.
Of course it did nothing to reduce crime.
And something like it may return under the unscrupulous socialist regime we have in place.

But as I look at history as a whole;
1) With the Brady Bill, those with high cap guns and ARs didn't have to surrender them.
2) When full auto weapons were controlled, folks already having them were grandfathered in and could still possess them.

I have no faith in the current administration.
But don't think most Americans will allow the government to take their arms
under any circumstances - including a presidential order.

[Tinman507]

Just for the record:

William Wallace died after being hanged, drawn & quartered for High Treason.
And Scotland is still part of the UK.

[Barth]

Just for the record:

William Wallace died after being hanged, drawn & quartered for High Treason.
And Scotland is still part of the UK.

And for the record;
The United States of America separated from the British Empire.
And continues to be free and sovereign government.

[LorenzoB]

But don't think most Americans will allow the government to take their arms
under any circumstances - including a presidential order.

I also don't think they will take our guns from us... They will take our guns from our children or grandchildren. One day, your H&K's will be confiscated and destroyed.

Also, by the very fact of not allowing you or the next generation to buy certain firearms that used to be legal, are in a sense, taking them away.

[johnh]

I am bothered a bit by folks who say no government would be able to disarm us, so don't worry about it. Is that the scenario we really want all this to boil down to? Wouldn't we much rather keep our rights AND not have to fight (literally) for them?

[LorenzoB]

+1 John

[Barth]

I also don't think they will take our guns from us... They will take our guns from our children or grandchildren. One day, your H&K's will be confiscated and destroyed.

Also, by the very fact of not allowing you or the next generation to buy certain firearms that used to be legal, are in a sense, taking them away.

In the case of full auto weapons that is true.
And that might be a good thing.
There has to be some limits on what's appropriate for a citizen to own.
But the high cap mags and AR ban has come and gone.
More Americans are pro gun today than in years gone by.

My crystal ball is not clear on what the future holds.
But I for one still have hope in our future.
That my grandson will be able to legally have and enjoy his inherited H&Ks.

And thanks for hitting below the belt with the H&Ks - LOL!

[LorenzoB]

I have hope too, but we can't "play down" the situation.

I knew you would like the H&K comment.

And not only that, but they WOULD be able to disarm the population if all they could get were pellet guns (which is already happening in Europe). And the truth is that most of the people willing to fight will all be very old men soon (the demographics of the election we just have shows that), and the younger next generation is not bold patriots like previous generations.

[LorenzoB]

I know you don't ever want them to be sawed in half (even after you have passed on), and that is why we need to sound the warning.

This is a slow, long term movement, where certain people dream of a time where only governments have guns. They will make leaps forward every time a "Brady Bill" or "Small Arms Treaty" is passed unto that ultimate goal. And then our 40 year old grandchildren will be looking over their shoulder while chatting on the KahrTalk BB gun forum.

[wyntrout]

Grandfathering is used to cut down the outcry and GRADUALLY introduce more stringent gun control. Too many people buy off on the deal not to take guns from current owners, thinking it doesn't concern them. Then more restrictions and the class of firearms is enlarged... pretty soon, it includes semi-autos... repeating arms of any kind... then ALL arms... eventually.

This can REALLY suck if there's no compensation! But, the increasingly more tyrannical government makes up the rules as it goes, especially with Dear Ruler's Edicts.

Grandfathering is like the proverbial frog in the pot of water... gradually increasing the heat until he's cooked, rather than trying to toss him into the boiling water. It's not a good thing!

Wynn