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  • #46
    Paper today said they disengaged the auto pilot and somehow they didn't engage the auto throttle to keep airspeed at a preset rate so the engines returned to idle....Captain's first landing of a 777 at SFO...Pilot and Training Officer in right seat was on his first assignment as a TO so he was probably trying to help out the Captain on his visual approach and got busy and didn't notice the auto throttles were off and their airspeed was falling dangerously slow and by the time he did notice it was too late, they firewalled the throttles and pulled hard up causing the tail to slam into the seawall at the end of the runway...This will go down as Pilot error because the crew forgot the number one rule, "Fly the Plane"....
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    • #47
      Maintain stick and rudder skills. Otherwise, Want Fries With That?. Just sayin'
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      • #48
        O'Dell.....Looks like 800 traps is gonna be hard to get in the future...

        http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2013/0...WhatsNewsForth

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        • #49
          Originally posted by MD_Vet View Post
          O'Dell.....Looks like 800 traps is gonna be hard to get in the future...

          http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2013/0...WhatsNewsForth
          Yeah, I've been watching the progress of the X-47 for a while. It's a prototype for an attack aircraft. Attack missions are pretty simple when you get down to it. Fly to the target, deploy the ordnance, and fly home. The programming for a fighter mission would require much more complicated algorithms, so I think fighter pilots will be around for a while.

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          • #50
            ABC News just announced that the FAA has released the names of the four Chinese pilots of the crashed Boing 777. Their names are Sum Singh Wong, Wie Tu Lo, Ho Lee Fok and Wei Bang Doun.
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            • #51
              Originally posted by O'Dell View Post
              Yeah, I've been watching the progress of the X-47 for a while. It's a prototype for an attack aircraft. Attack missions are pretty simple when you get down to it. Fly to the target, deploy the ordnance, and fly home. The programming for a fighter mission would require much more complicated algorithms, so I think fighter pilots will be around for a while.
              At the rate of tech development I am guessing fighter pilots will be out of the aircraft in two decades or less. The computer programming is already very far along to make pilotless fighter jets a reality. Boeing has a huge lead in this area.
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              • #52
                Originally posted by Longitude Zero View Post
                At the rate of tech development I am guessing fighter pilots will be out of the aircraft in two decades or less. The computer programming is already very far along to make pilotless fighter jets a reality. Boeing has a huge lead in this area.
                As witnessed by recent events at SFO.

                Sorry, sorta.
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                • #53
                  Originally posted by O'Dell View Post
                  Yeah, I've been watching the progress of the X-47 for a while. It's a prototype for an attack aircraft. Attack missions are pretty simple when you get down to it. Fly to the target, deploy the ordnance, and fly home. The programming for a fighter mission would require much more complicated algorithms, so I think fighter pilots will be around for a while.
                  Quite right. A man in the seat will be around for many years to come. While the current crop of advance drone is capable of dropping a bomb on a fixed target (we have cruise missiles that can do that too) protecting a carrier battle group from a dynamically changing tactical situation presented by a large group of attacking enemy aircraft...

                  Well that will take a man in the seat for a very long time to come.

                  I build gen 5 aircraft in the F-35 and work on deciding the what/how of gen 6 aircraft will be, starting work soon. Gen 6 will still have a seat and a pilot.
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