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    Watching the evening news where often security cameras show a BG inside a quick trip or fast food store waving a gun around attempting to rob the place I wonder what I'd do were I inside as a customer, since we eat out at fast foods often, when all this was happening.
    Any suggestions on whether it would be advisable to sit tight and hope he'd get some money and leave, wait till he'd start shooting, wait till he possibly made indications he was headed your way, or just shoot him immediately and hope his gun didn't go off hitting an innocent bystander (or me)?
    The more I carry my CM9 on my right hip the more exposed I feel without it, and the more I try to out-think myself before a situation would arise.
    Too bad someone hasn't published a booklet on all the different scenerios that might happen and how to respond to them.

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    It would take far more than a booklet to cover all the scenarios.
    Your asking a huge huge question that only you can answer and you won't know the question until your there.
    So many things to take into consideration.

    If it's just money and merchandise and you think he'll leave, let him go. If he's waving and unstable or things get tense I know what I'd do but nobody can or should tell you. Your choice and your aftermath to deal with.

    Personally I think your doing the right thing, pondering scenarios but don't plan on the bad guy following your script.

    I pray you'll never get a real life scenario but if you do may your shot be true and your lawyer the best.
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    • #3
      Originally posted by Bawanna View Post

      I pray you'll never get a real life scenario but if you do may your shot be true and your lawyer the best.
      That's the three answers there, prayer preceeding the event, your shot be true, and lawyer be the best. That about sums it up.
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      • #4
        I recall from a training class the instructor giving a scenario to think about: where a young female restaurant cashier is approached by a gun-wielding robber. The class was divided as to what to do. There was much to consider: the safety of others, your own family, yourself... Our battle-hardened instructor was resolute. He would go in 100 percent and with no hesitation. But that wasn't his point. Similar to what the Colonel said, he explained that only the situation and your own resolve will dictate how and if you will respond. But be prepared to do so if absolutely necessary. And go in without hesitation if you must.
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        • #5
          If you haven't already decided what you would do you shouldn't be carrying a gun. If you wait until the shooting starts you won't have time to think. You have to be committed.
          Never trust anyone who doesn't trust you to own a gun.

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          • #6
            BG has gun in his hand? All bets off. Do what you can.

            You see a big rock at the prcipice of a steep hill. Will it roll down and kill the two year old playing at the bottom? You dont think "aw, maybe it will stay put". You take appropriate action.

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            • #7
              I would like to say I could tell you how I would react but there's to many variables to second guess . The BG my grab the cash and get gone . Maybe the BG has a back up that came in a few minutes early like a normal customer and is mixed into the crowd just to watch for a do gooder to step up . I will defend me and mine first and if no BG's screw with me and no one is shot or beat down I may do nothing but then I'm not very good at second guessing what if scenario's .

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              • #8
                "Do ya feel lucky, PUNK?" "Go ahead, make my day!" You'll know instinctively what to do and don't rule out the best course of action may be to take the family and RUN to get help.
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                • #9
                  I agree with Bawanna.

                  Most every incident will be different, so be ready to act quickly & decisively...... or not.
                  A man can never have too much red wine, too many books, or too much ammunition
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                  • #10
                    There was an armed guy at the Gabby Giffords shooting who chose not to shoot.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by hardluk1 View Post
                      I would like to say I could tell you how I would react but there's to many variables to second guess . The BG my grab the cash and get gone . Maybe the BG has a back up that came in a few minutes early like a normal customer and is mixed into the crowd just to watch for a do gooder to step up . I will defend me and mine first and if no BG's screw with me and no one is shot or beat down I may do nothing but then I'm not very good at second guessing what if scenario's .
                      You could "what if" this scenario to death. You act upon what you know and not what you don't know. Someone pulls a gun expect him to use it.
                      Last edited by muggsy; 01-20-2016, 06:29 PM.
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by skiflydive View Post
                        There was an armed guy at the Gabby Giffords shooting who chose not to shoot.
                        Very wise move on his part. In all that confusion, nobody knowing who's who, he most likely would have been killed himself by another armed good guy either civilian or police.

                        Have to remember too that police arriving don't know who's who or what's what. That's one of the scariest parts of the scenario too. Not the cops fault either, just the way it is.
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                        • #13
                          I often find myself looking around when in a public setting contemplating how to react if a BG came in with a gun. I'm not a person that has a problem with problem solving. I'm pretty good at making decisions on the spot. 1st thing on my list is secure my wife and children as best I can- get them down, get them headed for cover, whatever. Then assess whether or not to immediately address the threat or wait for moment of opportunity (ppl being shot at vs. gun pointed at me). I know if I'm dead, I can't protect my family, so I'm not very gung ho about trying to be the hero. There's never a hard and fast answer to the "what if" question, but having considered the possibilities and a best course of action for those possibilities is mental training for me.

                          Self defense is about staying alive, not about stopping/killing the bad guy. Do what you have to do, and do it with conviction!

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by skiflydive View Post
                            There was an armed guy at the Gabby Giffords shooting who chose not to shoot.
                            Because he walked up just after the nutcase had been tackled by some others on site. Too bad he didn't come out of that store 1 minute earlier.
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                            • #15
                              If the BG is coming after you or your family then by all means do what needs to be done BUT we are not the Police and if possible it's best to let them handle it because they are the pros....If you take a shot at a BG holding up a 7-11 and miss and kill an innocent person it's your butt on the line and you have to remember that even if you have a dead bang shot there may be another BG behind you that you never saw....Remember this story about an armed CCW holder getting involved in a Walmart holdup:

                              http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/201...killing-spree/

                              Yes he tried to stop an active shooter but he didn't get to go home.....Was he a hero, yes but was it worth getting involved?......You decide
                              Last edited by getsome; 01-20-2016, 12:28 PM. Reason: Corrected misinformation...The CCW holder didn't get off a shot before being ambushed and killed....My error
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