Accidental discharges

[Dietrich]

I was just reading Wynn`s thread about a guy having a Glock go off accidently in his pants and it got me to thinking about the many accidental discharges I`ve read about over the years.It worries me,especially since a lot of the handguns that are accidently discharged are Glocks.Or at least Glocks get a lot of bad press,I.E. "Glock Leg".Now I don`t believe for one minute that a gun just goes off by itself but what in the name of all that`s holy are these people doing to these guns? I have two Glocks and so far they have behaved themselves but I want to make sure that there isn`t some kind of voodoo going on.Is it that people are careless about putting their fingers on the trigger or wearing a gun that doesn`t have a holster/trigger guard or what? It`s enough to give me the vapors.

[500KV]

Is it that people are careless about putting their fingers on the trigger or wearing a gun that doesn`t have a holster/trigger guard or what? It`s enough to give me the vapors.

I'd say you pretty well summed it up right there.
I also love my Glocks but would also note that the trigger "safety" is something that might be called into question when compared to the external safeties on many other handguns.
They require a different level of awareness in my opinion.

[erice303]

the recent guy in orlandodid not even have a holster. To me any gun must be in a holster that makes it imposable to pull the trigger until it clears the holster.

[melissa5]

I'd never carry a Glock without a holster! That's just asking for trouble.

[Bawanna]

Some people don't belong anywhere where there aren't sidewalks and walk and don't walk signs. Operator error, negligence is the whole picture.
Ironically Glocks safe action is what finally cured me and made me comfy with a 1911 again after many many years away ironically due to a AD, (totally my fault). In fact a detective asked me why I was so leary of a 1911. He then made reference to the Glock. How do you avoid firing the glock. Keep your finger off the trigger duh? Why won't that work on a 1911. Imagine that.
If you shoot guns, work on guns, enjoy guns long enough you WILL have an accidental discharge. Weather it's a bad thing or an oops depends on what your thinking or doing when it happens.
I recall reading about the Garu Jeff Cooper shooting the power meter on his home with his supposedly empty gun. Bunch of his pals managed to get it and had it bronzed.

[Dietrich]

Well,you folks have put my mind {what there is left of it] at ease once again.I suppose if you look at it in the right way,the Glock safe action trigger has made us more careful in our carrying practices.Who`d a thunk it?I`m getting ready to go into town.I think I`ll strap on my G36 with its` Crossbreed holster and see what I can run across at a couple of gun stores.If nothing transpires there,I need some new flounder rigs.Looks like it`s gonna be a nice afternoon.

[O'Dell]

I've been shooting hand guns for 45 years. In the 25 years or so since they came out I have never even considered a Glock. It's not just because I can't shoot them worth a darn or they don't fit my hand, but I've never been totally convinced that they are safe. This may be totally irrational on my part like my fear of heights, but it's my money, and I'll spend it where I want to do so. I've never worried about Brownings, Rugers, Tauruses, [at least about safety] 1911's, HK's, or M&P's because mine have always had manual safeties. I don't even worry about my SIGs, Kahrs, or my LCP - just Glocks.

I've never had a ND, but my son has with my PM45. He dropped the mag, pointed it at a light switch in my hallway, and blew it out of the wall. However that was hardly the gun's fault, as it would have happened with any pistol w/o a mag disconnect.

[Dietrich]

O`Dell,you are exactly,100% correct.If a person doesn`t feel comfortable with any gun they should pass it by.In firearms ownership,it`s all about what you like.Not what others like.

[Bawanna]

Wow just like Angels, Scotch and cigars huh? I give up the cigars, was stunting my growth but the others are natural.

[wyntrout]

I've never shot a Glock, but I've held a few and they are just too big and blocky... AND UGLY... to me.

Then there were those cases that they came in with the post that the trigger guard went over AND fired the pistol if it was loaded!! Of course there were instructions not to place a loaded gun in the case... BUT, who reads instructions... too much trouble. There were a LOT of AD's with that case.

Wynn

[jocko]

I really never thought a glock was ugly, expecially the G19. I never thought to juch of their trigger safety but maybe for leo people it is OK. I bought my son a G19 and heis not a gun savvy person so Ihad the SIDERLOCK safety installed on it and I personally love it.,

siderlock.com

[melissa5]

I don't think Glocks are ugly. They just don't have the beauty of wood and steel. For the Apocalypse, I would choose a Glock 17 every day and twice on Sunday.

[jocko]

agree, as much as I hate to agree with a woman!!!!!!! but I have to give um some credit, every once in awhile they come up with something good..

[Bill K]

There are those that aren't comfortable around guns period. There are some Glockers that put 3.5 pound connectors on their Glocks without concern. Most of us fall somewhere in between the two extremes. For sure my safety awareness is heightened when handling my Glock 26.

Bill K.

[CJB]

I was just reading Wynn`s thread about a guy having a Glock go off accidently in his pants

Read down in the thread.... the guy admitted to the cops that he was "playing with" his pistol. Sorry, all bets off, end of show, Elvis has left the building, and the guy has no sympathy from me. Its not the guns fault when the person in possession of it "plays with" the gun.

With that behind me, in my 12 years or so employed at two local ranges, I've seen:

A cop get shot in the leg about as close to his testicles as one could come and not actually crease the skin on his *******. Despite the "plastic safety post" in the Glock case, meant to prevent a loaded gun from being put in the case, and despite the BIG DAYGLOW STICKER in there that said "Never put a loaded gun in this case", he chose to anyway. The only way to do so was to defeat the trigger safety and pull the trigger partially back (on a loaded chamber!). He put the gun/case combo in his cruisers trunk, slammed the truck lid and the gun fired, exiting the rear of the trunk and entering his right leg. Yes his nuts was hurtin' for a long long time.

Another guy, did the same thing with his Glock, existed the range, bought something, put it in the Glock case, snapped on the lid while in the sales area of the building, and shot off his right ring finger (well it was dangling by a small flap). The finger is now a bit shorter, but reattached.

Another guy, a retired cop, used to his 1911 (he said) proceeded to load his Glock at the sales counter, despite strong verbal warning to stop, lowered the slide and "decocked" his Glock by thumbing down the (non existant) hammer and pulling the trigger. His gun fired, of course, the round went into a shelf full of ammo, setting some of that off (harmlessly), and his thumb got a whackin' big time from the slide. Same guy wanted a pass from me on having to actually attend NRA safety class, for his CW/FL saying he was a cop for 30 years, etc etc. Not a week later (and before he took the class) he had that AD.

Another guy did the same thing, with a 10mm glock, taking a chunk out of the floor tile (and underlying cement) in the range entry area. He said he was preparing to carry his Glock "condition two". I personally tossed him out of the range.

I don't know what it is. Guns are not for everyone. But I think Glock gets is share of AD's, a bit higher than most of the others, for some reason.