Jeb For Prez? I'll stay Home.....

[JohnR]

Does anyone know what Jeb actually stands for? His views on guns? On the debt and defecit? Taxes? Repealing 0-care? Getting us smaller government?

We recently saw his bleeding heart stance on illegal immigration.

[Ikeo74]

Does anyone know what Jeb actually stands for? His views on guns? On the debt and defecit? Taxes? Repealing 0-care? Getting us smaller government?

We recently saw his bleeding heart stance on illegal immigration.

He approves of free immigration of Mexicans out of "Love".

[muggsy]

I would describe Jeb Bush as a moderate at best. He fiscally conservative and social liberal. He received an A+ rating from the NRA on gun control issues.

[chrish]

Done voting for the lesser of two evils. Done. Done. Done. Tired of having weak conservatives that have no ethics or morals come on TV and tell me that. Tired of it.

If a candidate is pro-abortion, pro-choice, or refuses to take a position on it. Done. Won't vote for them.
If a candidate is pro-amnesty, pro-free-green-card, any position other than deport illegals (and their kids). Done. Won't vote for them.
If a candidate is not willing to take up tax reform and stick on it like 'stink on a skunk'. Done. Won't vote for them.
If a candidate says 'the ACA is here to stay, nothing we can do about it now other than tinker w/ it until we get it fixed'. Done. Won't vote for them.
If a candidate takes any position that gives credibility to global warming, climate change, etc. Done. Won't vote for them.
If a candidate takes any position on gun control that isn't working to reverse everything back to a full unadulterated view of the 2a. Done. Won't vote for them.
If a candidate takes a position on taxation that doesn't begin to reduce government theft and redistribution of my money to moochers. Done. Won't vote for them.

The list goes on. Follow the Constitution. Fight for the Constitution. Or I'm staying home. I've had it. Let the Dems have it all. Let it implode. No more compromising my principles. I'll stay home. It's just that simple.

[RRP]

My observation upon reading this thread:

When a party is so divided on who would make a good candidate to represent the party, there is little hope of winning the presidency.

[downtownv]

Done voting for the lesser of two evils. Done. Done. Done. Tired of having weak conservatives that have no ethics or morals come on TV and tell me that. Tired of it.

If a candidate is pro-abortion, pro-choice, or refuses to take a position on it. Done. Won't vote for them.
If a candidate is pro-amnesty, pro-free-green-card, any position other than deport illegals (and their kids). Done. Won't vote for them.
If a candidate is not willing to take up tax reform and stick on it like 'stink on a skunk'. Done. Won't vote for them.
If a candidate says 'the ACA is here to stay, nothing we can do about it now other than tinker w/ it until we get it fixed'. Done. Won't vote for them.
If a candidate takes any position that gives credibility to global warming, climate change, etc. Done. Won't vote for them.
If a candidate takes any position on gun control that isn't working to reverse everything back to a full unadulterated view of the 2a. Done. Won't vote for them.
If a candidate takes a position on taxation that doesn't begin to reduce government theft and redistribution of my money to moochers. Done. Won't vote for them.

The list goes on. Follow the Constitution. Fight for the Constitution. Or I'm staying home. I've had it. Let the Dems have it all. Let it implode. No more compromising my principles. I'll stay home. It's just that simple.

The Republicans rarely seek the BEST candidate, rather it;s the ole Boy Network, as to who's turn it is. In all reality this next presidential election will make or break the republican party for good. They now represent the Croney capitalists and NOT the constitution. Too many back room deals with the democrats. McCain, Graham, Iyotte and ***** to name a few, all should Demcraps, as that's how they vote.
When there is bowl-ful of crap, you may need to flush twice.
Put JEB in there, Republicans are DONE. Hillary wins by default. America will be done after 16 years of radical progressives, in the Whitehouse. Jeb is an automatic- Hilliary Win, time to look for another country to move to........ The US Constitution will be their toilet paper....

[muggsy]

Done voting for the lesser of two evils. Done. Done. Done. Tired of having weak conservatives that have no ethics or morals come on TV and tell me that. Tired of it.

If a candidate is pro-abortion, pro-choice, or refuses to take a position on it. Done. Won't vote for them.
If a candidate is pro-amnesty, pro-free-green-card, any position other than deport illegals (and their kids). Done. Won't vote for them.
If a candidate is not willing to take up tax reform and stick on it like 'stink on a skunk'. Done. Won't vote for them.
If a candidate says 'the ACA is here to stay, nothing we can do about it now other than tinker w/ it until we get it fixed'. Done. Won't vote for them.
If a candidate takes any position that gives credibility to global warming, climate change, etc. Done. Won't vote for them.
If a candidate takes any position on gun control that isn't working to reverse everything back to a full unadulterated view of the 2a. Done. Won't vote for them.
If a candidate takes a position on taxation that doesn't begin to reduce government theft and redistribution of my money to moochers. Done. Won't vote for them.

The list goes on. Follow the Constitution. Fight for the Constitution. Or I'm staying home. I've had it. Let the Dems have it all. Let it implode. No more compromising my principles. I'll stay home. It's just that simple.

A very wise politician once told me to vote for the strongest conservative candidate who has a chance of winning. You can't make progress by handing an election to the opposition. That attitude can assure us of having another president just like Obama. A politician doesn't have to agree with you on every issue, but he should agree with you on a majority of the issues. You can't always get what you want, but if you try sometimes you just might find that you get what you need. The liberals got to where they are one small step at a time.

[muggsy]

The Republicans rarely seek the BEST candidate, rather it;s the ole Boy Network, as to who's turn it is. In all reality this next presidential election will make or break the republican party for good. They now represent the Croney capitalists and NOT the constitution. Too many back room deals with the democrats. McCain, Graham, Iyotte and ***** to name a few, all should Demcraps, as that's how they vote.
When there is bowl-ful of crap, you may need to flush twice.
Put JEB in there, Republicans are DONE. Hillary wins by default. America will be done after 16 years of radical progressives, in the Whitehouse. Jeb is an automatic- Hilliary Win, time to look for another country to move to........ The US Constitution will be their toilet paper....

The only way that Jeb Bush can lose is for conservatives not to vote for him. He isn't my first choice, but he's a far better choice that anyone from the opposition party. If you don't like Jeb, don't vote for him in the primaries. There are worse choices. (John McCain, Lindsey Graham, John Boehner, Mitch McConnell)

[chrish]

A very wise politician once told me to vote for the strongest conservative candidate who has a chance of winning. You can't make progress by handing an election to the opposition. That attitude can assure us of having another president just like Obama. A politician doesn't have to agree with you on every issue, but he should agree with you on a majority of the issues. You can't always get what you want, but if you try sometimes you just might find that you get what you need. The liberals got to where they are one small step at a time.

The liberals and progressives have been getting what they wanted for the last 100 years plus. The next election is no different.


So with all due respect, not going for the old 'throwing your vote away' or 'you are handing it to the democrats' or 'you can't always get everything'. A pep talk from the establishment isn't gonna do it for me anymore. Run a McCain, Bush, Romney, and I'm sitting it out and watching the show from the couch.


1/3 of democrats by most polls from time to time and over 1/2 of republicans most ALL of the time are unhappy w/ what their party is doing. Add in the folks that claim to be independent and we are ripe (finally) for a third party that could grab a majority of votes. If the libertarians can get past their fetish on playing the druggie card, then we REALLY have the option of coming up with a Constitutionally sound party to shut the establishment RNC and entire DNC out of running this country into the ground.


That being said for the time being, until somebody does that, I will concede that we still have to work to change the RNC from the inside. But there is NO WAY IN HELL that will happen if the Tea and Libertarisn type folks keep giving in to the arguments and voting for McCains, Bushes, and Romneys. Sit it out and force the RNC to change or collapse.


The belief that the RNC has to live forever is just crazy. Let it collapse. We the people don't just disappear when the RNC does. We gel into the next front against liberalism and progressivism and maybe, just maybe, we make the platform into what it should be and bring along conservative democrats, libertarians, and the remnants of the GOP...leaving the establishment to be tomorrows fringe loosers.


Now is the time. If not now, when?

[downtownv]

The belief that the RNC has to live forever is just crazy. Let it collapse. We the people don't just disappear when the RNC does. We gel into the next front against liberalism and progressivism and maybe, just maybe, we make the platform into what it should be and bring along conservative democrats, libertarians, and the remnants of the GOP...leaving the establishment to be tomorrows fringe loosers.


Now is the time. If not now, when?

I agree the republican establishment are Dinosaurs.They need to die off and maybe we get some oil out of their dead carcasses!
The Tea Party Republicans are the future, that can't be bought!

[wyntrout]

The liberals and progressives have been getting what they wanted for the last 100 years plus. The next election is no different.


So with all due respect, not going for the old 'throwing your vote away' or 'you are handing it to the democrats' or 'you can't always get everything'. A pep talk from the establishment isn't gonna do it for me anymore. Run a McCain, Bush, Romney, and I'm sitting it out and watching the show from the couch.


1/3 of democrats by most polls from time to time and over 1/2 of republicans most ALL of the time are unhappy w/ what their party is doing. Add in the folks that claim to be independent and we are ripe (finally) for a third party that could grab a majority of votes. If the libertarians can get past their fetish on playing the druggie card, then we REALLY have the option of coming up with a Constitutionally sound party to shut the establishment RNC and entire DNC out of running this country into the ground.


That being said for the time being, until somebody does that, I will concede that we still have to work to change the RNC from the inside. But there is NO WAY IN HELL that will happen if the Tea and Libertarisn type folks keep giving in to the arguments and voting for McCains, Bushes, and Romneys. Sit it out and force the RNC to change or collapse.


The belief that the RNC has to live forever is just crazy. Let it collapse. We the people don't just disappear when the RNC does. We gel into the next front against liberalism and progressivism and maybe, just maybe, we make the platform into what it should be and bring along conservative democrats, libertarians, and the remnants of the GOP...leaving the establishment to be tomorrows fringe loosers.


Now is the time. If not now, when?

So, you'll just sit back and let things get worse. That's exactly how we got Obama and more so, Obama the Second Term.

We need to vote for the candidates who will do us the least harm... or vote against the worst candidates. Exercise your choice in a productive way. Sitting out the elections will just give them to the Libs and gun-grabbers.

Big Government wants to completely control every aspect of your life, starting with all of your income, so that they can control everyone with the ever-dwindling resources that they sit on top of.

You won't be sitting anything out for long. THEY WILL come for your guns and anything else they want. THEY have tanks and heavy weapons... and heavy-handed tactics.

I think that Obama and Company have established his National Police Force stronger than the military... building up DHS/FEMA and tearing down/subverting the military. People think that events as Germany experienced with Hitler can't happen here, but it sure looks as though the Government is getting ready to "handle" civilian unrest and any possible insurrections.

Wynn

[JohnR]

It's all about turnout.

Some have theorized that states legalizing mj is merely a ploy to get Democrats to show up at the polls. Then they'll fill in the bubble for legalizing it, and while they're at it, they'll bubble in anything with a "D" next to it.

Republicans need an issue like that, no matter what it is. What issue would get non-voters to just show up? It has to be a State or Local issue, preferably in the primaries, but in the General as well.

[getsome]

Gez you would think that the destruction of America and the stomping of the Constitution would be enough to get Republican voters off their sofa and out to vote for anybody or anything to keep the raiders off the porch....

Folks this ship is sinking fast and you can either bail with all your strength to keep her afloat or learn to like treading water....I don't care which Republican wins the nomination I'm going to do everything I possibly can to help them kick the predators and the moochers out of MY Government and get this country back on track to where it was before the Marxist Socialists somehow came into power and started their evil work....

I say again that this may be the time to tear the curtain in half and start a new America where the rule of law and power is obtained from the people who's Government works for THEM and not the other way around is the standard.....The Forefathers saw this day coming and made provisions for it and not only gave us the right to tear out the old and start anew but made it clear that it is our solemn duty to do so....

I only wonder if there is enough Patriots left that care enough to stand up to the traitors and say "Don't Tread On Me"...........

[100percent]

I have to agree wyn. Particularly when you saw what the alternative was.

What happens if the Republicans leave with a choice between bush3 or christy that would be sad

There were some good candidates in the Republican side that couldn't get past the primaries, to bad for us.

I talked to some fundamentalist Christians who sat out the last election because Romney was a Mormon, I don't feel sorry for us as we got who we deserved. About 35 years ago Mormons represented about 50% of the FBI. I trust them.

It still comes down to the lesser of two "evils"... which will do you the least harm. If you don't vote, you allow others to pick your leaders. That's one of the reasons we have the A-Hole we have now for a second term after he did so well the first 4 years!

Don't be a part of the PROBLEM by not voting. A "no vote" is a vote for the other side.

Too many conservatives stayed home while the Dems and Libs bussed people to the polls repeatedly... and enlisted the rolls of the deceased.

If you sit out the vote, you have no right to complain about the results being for the worse.

I didn't like Jeb's remarks about illegal immigration being an "act of love", nor his support of common core.

GW was a great governor... voted for him twice... and then for president twice. He was probably the best wartime president we could have had. He was and is a great Commander-in-Chief, but some of his political decisions weren't the best choices, unfortunately, he had to struggle with a Democratic Congress and tried to be "bipartisan" too many times. Bipartisan means go along with the Libs and Democrats, something the Dems don't worry about when they have both houses of Congress and the presidency under their control... then it's bend over and smile, 'cause here it comes! They will lie, cheat, and steal to get what they want... and they have no shame about their dirty tricks.

Wynn

[wyntrout]

One BIG problem is the so-called debates where nothing is held back and when the mudslinging and muckraking are over, everyone is sick of the outcome and can't stand the still-standing "winners". The only winners are the Libs and Dems who have a LARGE "tent" that welcomes ANY comers... no matter how radical or America hating.

Wynn