Mainstreammedia covers Israeli attack on defenseless Palestinians!

[muggsy]

The Arabs allied with Hitler during WWII, because the enemy of their enemy was their friend. The Arabs sided with Hitler because he was persecuting the Jews and murdered six million of them. At the end of WWII as compensation for these acts against them the Jews were given Israel as a homeland. At that time the Jews had no country of their own. The Arabs hate gentiles as much as they hate Jews and the gentiles would suffer the same fate as the Jews if the Arabs were allowed to succeed in their Jehad. As I see it you have reached a focal point. You can side with us or side with the Arab terrorists. There is no middle ground. Choose wisely grasshopper.

[JohnR]

According to Diana West, this propaganda method of lying about war efforts began with the Spanish Civil War, which explains why I've never really understood that conflict - everything written about it at the time was a lie.

In WWI, public accounts of the war's progress put out by both sides were earnest efforts at accuracy, if colored by nationalism. When Spain's fascists and Communists figured out they could win by winning the hearts of the non combatants reading the newspapers, war changed forever.

[yqtszhj]

Lets see... the arabs side with putin and putin with the arabs, hmmmmm.

And I guess the jews have never been oppressed or persecuted.

[knkali]

The Arabs allied with Hitler during WWII, because the enemy of their enemy was their friend. The Arabs sided with Hitler because he was persecuting the Jews and murdered six million of them. At the end of WWII as compensation for these acts against them the Jews were given Israel as a homeland. At that time the Jews had no country of their own. The Arabs hate gentiles as much as they hate Jews and the gentiles would suffer the same fate as the Jews if the Arabs were allowed to succeed in their Jehad. As I see it you have reached a focal point. You can side with us or side with the Arab terrorists. There is no middle ground. Choose wisely grasshopper.

You are not entirely correct. The "Jew problem" was to be fixed by creating Zionist State well before the end of WWII. In fact, it was during WWI and the subsequent Balfour Declaration when the Zionist State was hatched(as compensation) to fix the Jew problem of Europe. I wont go into why England spear headed this. That is for another thread and doesn't add to this thread. Middle ground is exactly what is needed here. Otherwise the perpetuation of the violence and killing will continue. What are you proposing? Killing every Palistinian? Every Arab? Every Muslim? That paradigm has been tried over and over again with other peoples throughout history and it just doesn't work. Accept killing and turmoil as the new normal? OK I guess, until it is your son or father that comes home grossly disfigured or dead from fighting this never ending battle. Choosing sides is easy. Finding a reasonable solution based in reality is not as easy.

[deadeye]

One minor unimportant point rears it's head. It isn't the Palestinians as such doing the rocketing. It is the Iranian led terrorist group Hamas who took over Palestine and for lack of a better work enslaved the people. Israel and Palestine were getting along so-so until Iran jumped in there. One way or another if they can destroy Israel they will have more time to concentrate on us.

[knkali]

One minor unimportant point rears it's head. It isn't the Palestinians as such doing the rocketing. It is the Iranian led terrorist group Hamas who took over Palestine and for lack of a better work enslaved the people. Israel and Palestine were getting along so-so until Iran jumped in there. One way or another if they can destroy Israel they will have more time to concentrate on us.

I never really thought of Israel as a chew toy for the United States. However, I think you do have a point there.

[wyntrout]

Israel just wants to exist in peace and has tried numerous times to return captured land for peace treaties. The Islamic radicals use the land to get closer and launch renewed attacks on Israel with the goal of destroying Israel... again and again. Listen to the Arab leaders, especially the terrorist supporting ones... they all want to destroy Israel and state their goals as such. This has proven hard to do, but the terrorists keep getting help from the hand-wringing UN and other let's-all-get-along groups and leaders who all gang up on Israel to "give peace a chance" and return the occupied lands. Wisely, Israel hasn't gone overboard with that idea. At least... they remember history.

If the terrorist groups manage to destroy Israel and establish their Islamic Caliphate, then all of the Arab groups will unite against the West and the US. Much of Europe is pretty much already doomed... and with Obama the terrorist groups have a foothold and support in this country. What's not to like about a Muslim World and Sharia Law??

Wynn:israel:

[Bill]

Israel just wants to exist in peace and has tried numerous times to return captured land for peace treaties. The Islamic radicals use the land to get closer and launch renewed attacks on Israel with the goal of destroying Israel... again and again. Listen to the Arab leaders, especially the terrorist supporting ones... they all want to destroy Israel and state their goals as such. This has proven hard to do, but the terrorists keep getting help from the hand-wringing UN and other let's-all-get-along groups and leaders who all gang up on Israel to "give peace a chance" and return the occupied lands. Wisely, Israel hasn't gone overboard with that idea. At least... they remember history.

If the terrorist groups manage to destroy Israel and establish their Islamic Caliphate, then all of the Arab groups will unite against the West and the US. Much of Europe is pretty much already doomed... and with Obama the terrorist groups have a foothold and support in this country. What's not to like about a Muslim World and Sharia Law??

Wynn:israel:

What he said...

[knkali]

OK guys I got the message loud and clear. SO what is the US to do? Anything? What is Israel to do?

[wyntrout]

More funding for their Iron Dome defense shield and promise of air refueling support for future strike missions against Iranian nuclear weapons facilities.

Wynn

[TheTman]

How would any of us react if a foreign force, came in, and kicked us out of our homes, and then moved into them? We would be mad as hell. That is what the Zionists did to the Palestinians.
I happened to come across the video Knkali linked to while researching the Israeli/Palestinian conflict. 80% of the Jews in Isreal have 0% Semetic blood in them, and originated in the Empire of Khazaria, located in southern Russia, just north of the Caucus mountains, which adopted Judaism as it's state religion back in the 6th-7th century, when Hebrew Ambassadors visited the area. Over the following centuries, they came to believe that they were not Gentiles, but actual Semitics. Invading Mongols and Russians pushed them eastward into Poland and other Eastern European countries. These are known as the Ashkenazi Jews, as opposed to the Sephardic Jews, who are the actual descendants of the original Jews and migrated to states along Northern Africa, Spain, Portugal, with some going as far as France and England. The Ashkenazii Jews were the main victims of Hitler's Final Solution. They make up some 80 percent of the Jews that returned to Israel, as opposed to 20% of the Sephardic Jews that have returned to Israel, where for the most part they are treated as 2nd class citizens, by the majority Ashkenazi Jews.
I ran across another video by one Ted Pike titled "The Other Israel" which was extremely upsetting to me, as it shows extracts from literature from the library of a Synagogue he was able to gain access too. It shows how the Pharisees have historically viewed Christians and Gentiles, and Jesus Christ. You can watch the video at:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0zc1xTiH9T8
I found this information to be extremely disturbing. Although most modern Jews are unaware of these older views, it provides some shocking details of what the Pharisees considered to be ok, including pedophilia with children under the age of 3. Of course much of this was written while they were in exile in Babylon (after being expelled from Israel in 135AD), a place where sexual perversion was the norm. The Jews seem to have been greatly influence by these perversions. I guarantee it will make you think twice about supporting Israel. Today, Messianic Jews, those that have accepted Jesus Christ, are denied their right to return to Israel, if it is known they are Messianic. Christians are being driven out of the country too, and are not allowed to immigrate for the most part. Bethlehem which once had a thriving Christian community now only has a small Christian population. Please watch the video, at least to the point that it gets into Bible prophecy, it is a real eye opener.

[knkali]

More funding for their Iron Dome defense shield and promise of air refueling support for future strike missions against Iranian nuclear weapons facilities.

Wynn

I hear ya.

[wyntrout]

Muslims are a bloodthirsty bunch:



Wynn

[wyntrout]

Well, this is gross... maybe appealing to some, but sheds some light on the curious tastes of the enlightened Muslims:

Warning! Adullt content!

http://prepperchimp.com/2014/08/03/v...ex-with-goats/


Wynn

[DavidS]

OK guys I got the message loud and clear. SO what is the US to do? Anything? What is Israel to do?

What Israel plans to do.
http://conservativetribune.com/no-more-ceasefires/