Film: JFK to 9/11, Everything is a Rich Man's Trick.

[TheTman]

I ran across these videos today: 9/11 Truth Bombshell https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Znfa6OMy_pQ

Proof a cruise missile hit the Pentagon: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ypc4ieJO0pg

There are a number of other interesting videos listed on the side of the videos on each link you may want to check out too. Here is one of them, a video from a "CIA Insider" that is also disturbing: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rnbMjAN7Bws

I think the first video really disturbs me the most if it's true. That thousands of people died to cover up illegal activity and conceal a money trail. Plus who was involved. Daddy Bush being one, who was also reportedly at the scene of the JFK assassination, at the spot the shooting went down. Just how crooked is that family? Maybe as bad as anyone, only they've kept it hidden better than most. That is very troubling to me, if it's true, I supported both of them for president. I can imagine Daddy Bush with his CIA background being involved in some crazy stuff though.

[DavidWJ]

You're joking, right?

Politicians have always been corrupt. That's what it takes to gain power. Some politicians do the right thing, but they don't last.

Remember when the Democrats wanted to do away with the Presidency and establish a Parlimentary form of government in the 90s and 00s? They didn't hold the Presidency at that time. Now the Democrats use the Presidency to push their radical agenda, which strengthens their power and makes them more money. Ever seen Clinton's mansions? http://www.infowars.com/video-young-...iple-mansions/

One thing for sure, Politicians are out for themselves. The Democrats and many Republicans no longer believe in the Constitution of the United States, nor the Bill of Rights. So the country is in the toilet.

I worked with a Hungarian just as the Belin wall came down. He stated over and over that a revolution need not be bloody, I strongly disagreed. Hungary gained it's independence with no bloodshed and no battles, because the ruling elite had common sense and threw the pro-Russian government out. In know it's a Wiki, but check out https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/End_of...ary_%281989%29.

Not sure our "ruling elite" has it in them, as I see no common sense and only corruption in our government. I guess the implication is clear...

[tv_racin_fan]

I don't have faith in govt I have faith in what I know.

Find an explosives engineering firm that would be willing to go into a burning building to set it up for an implosion. Find one that is willing to do that and can do it on a moments notice and then can get the job done in only a couple hours and without all their normal equipment and prep time. Find one willing to set up a building for implosion and guarantee the implosion after an aircraft impact or in the case of building 7 after the building next to it falls and does the amount of damage done to building 7.

The only way it works as the conspiracy guys claim is if you ignore facts that are easily seen just by looking.

[TheTman]

The explosives team had several weeks to install the explosives. The building changed hands a few months before 9/11 and it's suspected that shortly there after, the demolition would take place. They had to wait long enough for the insurance policies to be in effect, funny how he took out extra insurance against terrorist acts, and got paid double, citing each plane crash as a separate attack. People reported seeing Black vans coming and going in the parking garage between 2 and 5 in the morning the weeks preceding 9/11 after the cleaning crews had gone, so there was no last minute wiring of explosives, it was all done beforehand. The steel core of the building was shipped off very quickly too, they didn't want to leave that around to be examined. So much doesn't make sense, like finding on of the "hijacker's" fully intact passport, a couple blocks from the towers, in perfect condition with not a scorch mark on it. What were all the explosions the firemen reported hearing just before and as the buildings came down? Must be nice to lease a building, then double your money on it in a few months. The buildings were full of asbestos, and were going to have to have extensive and expensive renovation to remove the asbestos. This way, the problem is solved, plus you double your money in a few months.
I don't know if we'll ever know what really happened, There are some very good theories, but none can be proven beyond doubt. After seeing the video of something slamming into the Pentagon, you can't convince me that it was an airliner, it was way too small and had no wings to speak off. There were no marks on the outside of the Pentagon to indicate where wings might have impacted the building, you'd expect some sign of an impact at least. I hate to think that we've been lied to on such a large scale, but lies seem to make up at least half that comes out of Washington D.C. Other burnings have burnt hotter, and longer and didn't fall, http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/wtc_fire.htm
I will also take the word of engineers on the matter that have no monetary interest riding on the matter, except those that might write a book or something, over those that were paid large sums of money to come to the conclusion the Govt. wanted them too. I figure most folks have made up their mind, whether to accept the Govt. explanation or not. I'm trying to reach those still undecided.
I wish we had a government we could trust to tell us the truth. I don't know when it really started getting off track. The creation of the Federal Reserve? The War of Northern Aggression? WWI or WWII? Somewhere in there things start coming unhinged, and it's never been repaired. I don't think the creation of the CIA and all their secret projects has helped, nor did the employment of so many NAZ!s after WWII. Plus all the black ops we've been involved in. I just hope Barry goes away quietly when it's his time, if not sooner due to some legal problem, and doesn't have some opportunity fall into his lap where he can declare Martial Law, and cancel the elections.

[tv_racin_fan]

Ok lets go with they installed the explosives and had it wired ready to go.

Why did it not detonate upon aircraft impact? How did the aircraft impact and subsequent fire not damage the detonation system preventing the explosives from going off?

[TheTman]

They probably used wireless transmitters and receivers. If they can set an IED off with a cell phone, I imagine demolition crews would have more sophisticated equipment, but the idea is the same. Maybe some did go off on Impact. They had months to plan and place the explosives, and account for the variables..

[tv_racin_fan]

A single bomb with a cell phone that doesn't have to go boom with millisecond timing is one thing, the charges to bring down a building something else. You don't get that millisecond timing with wireless anything. You could use wireless for the initiation charge but then you have non electric blasting tubes running all over the building and the same issue of aircraft impact or fire or debris disrupting the shot timing or making it not work at all.

[TheTman]

And you know this how? Are you a demolition / radio control expert? You have access to military grade radio control devices?
This video answers some of your questions: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E3EQV223Y-M With people talking about explosions going off as the building came down.

You can believe what you want to believe, I doubt if anything I say is going to change your mind.

[tv_racin_fan]

Actually, yes sir, I was an "explosives engineer" of sorts, and some would call me a professional as I did make a living with explosives. Ex military as well sir.

[tv_racin_fan]

Love how they mention that the office workers would not see the explosives as they were in the core not the offices. They seem to have forgotten that the elevators were also in that core and every office worker would have gone into and come of at least one elevator in the "core". Care to explain why these office workers would not have seen these boxes filled with explosives laying next to the wall where they got into and got off of an elevator? They don't bother to explain it.

[downtownv]

This is a VERY Deep rabbit hole......But I remember watching the TV, in the corner of the screen was a large spool of cable and a fireman ,what appeared to be a large gaping whole in the P-gon. But I kept asking where is the strewn stuff from a plane crash?
I flew into Minneapolis a day after a plane crash and it was like a huge yard sale... There was crap everywhere Seats, luggage etc. I didn't see anything but a green lawn. No opinion one way or another just my recollection.

[muggsy]

People who fall for these conspiracy theories aren't very deep thinkers. There's and old saying. The only way that three men can keep a secret is if two of them are dead. Anyone who thinks that 911 was anything more that a terrorist attack is a damn fool.

[Longitude Zero]

People who fall for these conspiracy theories aren't very deep thinkers. There's and old saying. The only way that three men can keep a secret is if two of them are dead. Anyone who thinks that 911 was anything more that a terrorist attack is a damn fool.

Yuppa.

Here is an education on explosives for those ignorant of building demolitions. If CDI thought radio controlled demolitions was a good idea they would have been using it years ago. There is a reason they string thousands of feet of detonation cord. Folks that think 9/11 was a radio controlled event they are dumber than a sack of hair. Believing some horseshat just because it is on YouTube is even dumber than that.

http://www.controlled-demolition.com/

[SlowBurn]

Here's a q. Take any conspiracy theory ever conceived no matter how far fetched. Has anyone ever talked an adherent out of their belief by pointing out facts? Ever? I've talked to quite a few over the years and sometimes made a real effort. Still waiting for the first "aha" moment where one sees the light.

[ripley16]

Tman, stories like this have been circulating since Woodrow Wilson was president. It makes for fun reading, but nothing is based of hard fact and none of it have ever been proven to be true. One thing that has always been true where there's a buck to be made is that there's a sucker born every minute. Tell a lie enough times and it becomes the truth. For what it's worth, Muggsy

That sums up my view. People that refuse to see the evidence in front of their face, for whatever reason, will always be susceptible to faddish theory. Do government officials lie... of course, but in the case of certain major events, (Pearl Harbor, JFK, 9/11, UFOs, etc.), the conspiracy theories are nothing short of absurd.

Conspiracy and the desire to have them have become a new religion to a few. They want to believe and they do.