Concealed Carry license and traffic stops. Penna

[BEARDOG]

In Ohio when an LEO runs your plate, they will know if one of the owners of the vehicle has a CHL license. Sorry to say I don't know if it's the same in PA or not. I would check www.pafoa.org.

+1 ^This
PAFOA.org... Highly recommend you sign up there, it is a great forum, lots of good info.

In PA you are not suppose to say anything. It definitely varies state to state, but if you were able to get your carrying permit in the first place, I doubt the officer has anything to worry about. Telling him/her only makes them nervous for a simple traffic violation. It has nothing to do with respect.

+1 ^ This too.
It will/could only make extra trouble for a simple traffic stop.

[QuercusMax]

This whole thing illustrates one of the great weaknesses of the USA compared to other countries. In the USA, you can be legal one minute, travel a mile down the road, and be illegal - and ignorance of the law is no excuse. States' rights rein supreme - mostly a good thing - but sometimes a curse.

Talking on your cell phone, window tint, motorcycle helmet - you name it - legal one moment, illegal the next.

And then you add in all of the many different law enforcement organizations we have at different levels of government, different training, different rules, etc. Some good, some definitely not.

I am left with little confidence that I am safe - from our laws, from our government, and from its various agents.

I have lived many years in several European countries - where some of our freedoms (such as gun ownership and possession) do not exist - but on the positive side each of the ones I experienced also had uniformity of laws and enforcement across the country, so you always knew where you stood. Not so in our country.

Some things are better here; some things are not. I want the best of both!

[CJB]

Not in Fl, CWP's are run by the Dept of Agriculture!

[KMA]

For instance, when pulled over for a traffic stop generally the police run your plates. When they pull up that info, will they know you have a concealed carry permit before approaching the car?

Not necessarily, it varies from state to state. I always inform the officer no matter if I have to or not.

[muggsy]

In Ohio when an LEO runs your plate, they will know if one of the owners of the vehicle has a CHL license. Sorry to say I don't know if it's the same in PA or not. I would check www.pafoa.org.

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That only works if the car is registered to the CCW permit holder. The car I drive is registered in my wife's name.

[skiflydive]

I can't think of any good reason why you wouldn't tell the LEO you have a CPL...armed or not. Several Kahrtalk posts would indicate that the outcome of the stop was better when the CPL was disclosed.

[ltxi]

Because I've never seen any point to it....absent having to exit the vehicle.

[rholmes69]

NC, not tied to the plate but your DL. You don't have to inform them if you are NOT carrying and have your CHP, but it makes them mighty jumpy when they come back from running your license. Always a courtesy to tell them upfront you have CHP but are NOT carrying should that be the case. Additionally, you must inform an officer if you are carrying, regardless if they make initial contact or you do.

[muggsy]

Not in Fl, CWP's are run by the Dept of Agriculture!

Do they know if you are carrying when you fertilize?

[muggsy]

NC, not tied to the plate but your DL. You don't have to inform them if you are NOT carrying and have your CHP, but it makes them mighty jumpy when they come back from running your license. Always a courtesy to tell them upfront you have CHP but are NOT carrying should that be the case. Additionally, you must inform an officer if you are carrying, regardless if they make initial contact or you do.

Wouldn't it be easier to just obey the traffic laws and not get pulled over in the first place? Just sayin'.

[jdlott74]

NC, not tied to the plate but your DL. You don't have to inform them if you are NOT carrying and have your CHP, but it makes them mighty jumpy when they come back from running your license. Always a courtesy to tell them upfront you have CHP but are NOT carrying should that be the case. Additionally, you must inform an officer if you are carrying, regardless if they make initial contact or you do.

Rholmes, correct me if I am wrong, but isn't it NC that you can also open carry as long as it is no the seat beside you or within plain sight and that is legal in NC?

[jdlott74]

Wouldn't it be easier to just obey the traffic laws and not get pulled over in the first place? Just sayin'.

Muggsy do you EVER quit with the smart remarks...What's with you? CRAP happens, you drive faster than you thought you were, you don't realize you have a tail light out, LEO stops you. You can be a LAW ABIDING CITIZEN and still get stopped for something you didn't realize you did. Your crap stinks just like the rest of us and you are not perfect either. I'm sure you have gotten pulled at one time or another for something.

[QuercusMax]

Wouldn't it be easier to just obey the traffic laws and not get pulled over in the first place? Just sayin'.

There is no way that any citizen - law-abiding or not - can be sure to avoid this.

Any LEO knows that if they want to stop someone, all they have to do is follow the person for a few minutes and they can always find something they can use to justify a traffic stop.

We already have far too many laws, and thousands of "law makers" on the job every day making more.

[Disapointed]

Muggsy do you EVER quit with the smart remarks...What's with you? CRAP happens, you drive faster than you thought you were, you don't realize you have a tail light out, LEO stops you. You can be a LAW ABIDING CITIZEN and still get stopped for something you didn't realize you did. Your crap stinks just like the rest of us and you are not perfect either. I'm sure you have gotten pulled at one time or another for something.

jdlott74, you're killing me!!! Muhahahaha
2 things:
1) Can I make a request that no one on this forum ever uses the slang "Just Sayn" ever again? It makes you sound like a middle schooler trying to put their antognistic 2 cents in. Just Saying... P.S. This is not a troll.

2) In NV, you can carry a loaded pistol in the vehicle anywhere you want without a CCW. I have a CCW, so put my pistol on the floorboard, when driving for comfort sake. Been pulled over 3 times since having one in the last 8 years. I never informed Jonny be Good, he never asked. I'm positive it comes up when running state Id.

[jlottmc]

So when did she use the just sayin bit? Perhaps one would do well to be technically and tactically proficient. You can also carry like that in TX too, which was not the point she was making. Her point was directed to a poster. Her point and I will certainly attest to this part, is that if a LEO wants to stop you, you can expect to see party lights in your rear view mirror.
Just sayin'