Concealed Carry license and traffic stops. Penna

[Hawkeye]

As far as NY is concerned I would think since your VA CCW license is not recognized by NY (NY does not recognize any other states' license), that pretty much makes your license a "null and void" piece of paper while you are in NY. I would think it would not be subject to any specific notification expectations.

Thanks. That makes sense to me. I know about the reciprocity list and have previously viewed the link given by Tinman.

We loved living in upstate NY. We were near the Finger Lakes. It is very rural and beautiful. But they have two issues: 1. being in the same state as NYC, big city laws tend to spill over, 2. the economy sucks (not unrelated to #1).

Having grown up in the Midwest, and with guns, New York’s phobia for guns was alarming to me. I remember one time someone found a very old rusty revolver buried in their yard. The story was on the first or second page of the local paper. There was no implication that it was involved in a crime or anything like that. But you would have thought it was a piece of plutonium. Funny if it wasn’t so sad.

[Hawkeye]

a very common sense statement by a cop.

Ihave been let go many times on myhARLEY AFTER THE COP WHO PULLED me over realized I was 70 and ready to die,so they let me go with a warning and sometimes just general conversation once he knew I was an OK person.:

I'm the same age but ride a 2005 Triumph Bonneville. (Hopefully, I won't be dying any time soon.) Knock on wood, the last time I was pulled over for a moving violation was about 35 years ago on a crotch rocket. Just as I entered an S-curve I saw a state trooper entering the other end. I was doing about 75 and hit the brakes hard. This was in the stupid double-nickle era. He made a U-ee, and pulled me over.

The trooper seemed like a nice guy but was enamored with his new toy--moving radar. He asked me to sit in the patrol car while he demo'd it. He showed me that it was set for an alarm to go off at 70. Then he had to reach up and hit a button to lock in the speed. He said, "You must have really pulled it down fast." The speed that was locked in was 65. He wrote me up for 10 over.

I considered the moving radar downright unsportsmanlike and could have lived without the demo.

[AJChenMPH]

Back to the original question: in PA, apparently (from what I've read on PAFOA) the answer is it depends on who pulls you over.

If a local LEO pulls you over, s/he and his/her agency likely won't have access to the state's licensing database. (In PA, while the county sheriff does the licensing, it is a state license and the information is sent back to PA State Police.) However, if a PA state trooper pulls you over, s/he likely will be told by the dispatcher if you have a LTCF. Whether it's tied to your car registration or your driver's license, I don't know. And it's supposedly not legal that they do that.

As far as I know, under PA law you're not required to inform the officer you're carrying. As of right now, because my agency has issued me tin and creds (even though I'm not law enforcement), I plan to inform them as I have my driver's license displayed with my badge. Once I change jobs and have to turn in the badge and creds, I likely will not inform them.

[VN Vet]

I'm going to stay home and not travel out-of-state. With my military career behind me, I've travelled enough to last me a long time.

My Brother-in-Law can carry his firearem just about any place. When I travel out-of-state, I travel with him and I can (and do) trust my life with his abilities.

[jocko]

I would

I'm going to stay home and not travel out-of-state. With my military career behind me, I've travelled enough to last me a long time.

My Brother-in-Law can carry his firearem just about any place. When I travel out-of-state, I travel with him and I can (and do) trust my life with his abilities.

think if u have a VN veteranhat on,this might go a long way to helping u, or just a veterans ballcap on. Just sayin

I know from my stand point if I see a person wearing a veteran ballcap on him, I instantly respect him. Not that I would give hm ywallet or ayting like that but he earned my respect without sayin a word.

[Captquest]

Sorry to bring up an old thread but this is a good question. My class instructor also indicated to us that we should not mention it unless asked. In Florida the officer will not see the info on a regular traffic check but can specifically look it up if he wants. He brought up that notorious YT video of the stupid cop (no offense) going off on a permit holder. I 'm not decided on this yet but didn't want to get a lengthy discussion going on it. I only said that there's a lot of advise out there saying otherwise and he replied "it's up to you". I guess I'll play that one by ear. He mentioned the importance of our constitution more than once and I go along with him on that, why can't citizens be treated on a "need to know" basis?

[jocko]

I have no doubt that some LEO's feel they are the only ones who should be armed. Most all are darned good people, but that one could make ur life miserable by u volunteering info that was not needed..

[Barth]

I'm not sure here in Florida.
But I don't think just running the plates will do it.
Dept of Agriculture actually issues the permits.

I do not believe we are required to state we are armed though.
If asked directly by the officer? Then yes.

If I feel I may be searched, or found out in some way, I'll speak up.
Otherwise I'm staying quite.

It's a case by case thing for me.

I certainly don't speed excessively or drive recklessly armed.
I'll walk away from most any confrontation or situation that might escalate.
Being a legally armed citizen has changed the way I conduct myself.

[Bawanna]

It's generally two separate data bases. A standard driver check usually will not reveal a CWL or CPL as we have in Wa.

The officer can check and see if there is one but that would be very unlikely unless their spidy senses are detecting something they are concerned about.

I've asked most of my guys for their personal input and most don't care as long as they don't see the weapon.

If you need to go near the weapon to get something the officer request, then that is the time to let them know you have one, you have no ill intentions and ask how they want to proceed. If you get one of the very few who might go off on a CPL holder, there's nothing for it, just bad luck.

As usual New York and most of California would be an exception. No common sense in them places.

[garyb]

As usual New York and most of California would be an exception. No common sense in them places.

Some here have it....just not the law makers.

[southern thunder]

I think it does in Florida.

[muggsy]

Muggsy do you EVER quit with the smart remarks...What's with you? CRAP happens, you drive faster than you thought you were, you don't realize you have a tail light out, LEO stops you. You can be a LAW ABIDING CITIZEN and still get stopped for something you didn't realize you did. Your crap stinks just like the rest of us and you are not perfect either. I'm sure you have gotten pulled at one time or another for something.

I've been driving for 51 years. In 51 years I've been pulled over 7 times. All of those stops occurred within the first ten years of receiving my licence. Of the 7 stops 4 resulted in tickets that I richly deserved. I have not been pulled over once since obtaining my CCW permit. I must live right.

[Longitude Zero]

In OK there is no way the officer would know when approaching the vehicle. HOWEVER OK is also a MANDATORY notice state meaning that if you have your weapon you MUST notify the officer at first contact.