Concealed Carry license and traffic stops. Penna

[LaP]

Muggsy do you EVER quit with the smart remarks...What's with you? CRAP happens, you drive faster than you thought you were, you don't realize you have a tail light out, LEO stops you. You can be a LAW ABIDING CITIZEN and still get stopped for something you didn't realize you did. Your crap stinks just like the rest of us and you are not perfect either. I'm sure you have gotten pulled at one time or another for something.

I'm 58 years old. I have never received a moving traffic violation or vehicle equipment related violation... NEVER.
Hmmmm, maybe because I drive the speed limit, use turn signals, don't tailgate, check my rearview mirror...etc. So, if your implying that only "unlucky" people get pulled over, I guess I am living in that perfect non-crap world.

[1radman]

Here In Virginia the police can access ccw permit info on a plate check. My initial training for my permit stated that you are NOT required to inform the officer that you're in possession of your weapon. HOWEVER on my first encounter with LE, the officer politely informed me otherwise. He knew before he stepped out of his car that I had a permit. Since then I ALWAYS hand the cop my permit along with my license and tell him I'm carrying and I keep my hands where he can see em!
Of the 3 traffic stops while carrying, I've gotten out of at least 4 tickets....
I think because I was respectful and honest up front and they appreciate that and that most of them know who the good guys are and are not interested in hassling us.

[yote]

Not in Arizona. Does not come up with a plate or driver's license check. Lying about your carry status during a traffic stop is arrestable.

[Bill K]

Here in Connecticut you're not required to inform the police of having a Pistol Permit or that you have a gun on you or in the car. I do not know whether or not the information is available to the Officer via the plates or driver license.

Last time I was stopped by a police officer was to tell me that a brake light was out. No ticket.

[Hawkeye]

I know this is an older thread. I searched the Forum rules and could not find anything about posting on an older thread vs. starting a new thread. So, I will start with this older one.

I recently rented and shot a CM9 and liked it very much. I am now awaiting delivery of one I ordered. I live in Virginia. I am planning on getting my CCW though I would only carry infrequently.

My question relates to notifying a LEO if I am stopped traveling out-of-state--especially NY. We occasionally visit our son in upstate NY. Having lived there myself at one time I know how firearm-phobic they are.

It is very unlikely I would ever carry a firearm outside of Virginia. But, I am not clear about the notify LEO requirement. I see from other posts that it varies by state if a LEO will know if you have a CCW permit as a result of checking your records on a traffic stop. No one mentioned NY. Just because I have a CCW would I be required to notify a NY LEO if stopped? And, would I need to have the permit with me even though I did not have a weapon?

Logically, my mind tells me if you aren’t carrying a weapon you shouldn’t have to be carrying the permit. But law is not always logical, especially when it involves NY and guns.

Any help would be appreciated.

[Bawanna]

Out of state muddies all waters. New York probably wouldn't be able to tell you have a permit.

If you don't have a weapon I agree you shouldn't have to have the permit but I keep mine in my wallet right next to my driver license always.

I don't advise an officer of a weapon during a traffic stop unless he ask or if I were asked to exit a vehicle. Not likely since I don't commit major violations.

Any state should be able to tell if you have a permit with just your name and date of birth. They may have to look it up specifically but they can do it.

We aren't required to advise here and on the rare occasions I leave the state I would not advise either but be polite and honest if they do ask.

I wouldn't go to New York on a very large bet so that's not an issue for me.

[jocko]

I agreewith thecolone. If not asked, shut thefokk up. If ur speeding, ur gonna gaet a ticket if ur an out of stater, so be polite show him exactly what he asks for and IMO uttin else.

[otium]

As far as NY is concerned I would think since your VA CCW license is not recognized by NY (NY does not recognize any other states' license), that pretty much makes your license a "null and void" piece of paper while you are in NY. I would think it would not be subject to any specific notification expectations.

[Tinman507]

Hawkeye,

Check this site out. http://www.handgunlaw.us/
Gives all the states and their reciprocity with other states. I wouldn't carry into NY on a bet.

[ParabellumJ]

Concealed Carry license and traffic stops. Penna

As far as NY is concerned I would think since your VA CCW license is not recognized by NY (NY does not recognize any other states' license), that pretty much makes your license a "null and void" piece of paper while you are in NY. I would think it would not be subject to any specific notification expectations.

This is exactly right. Before you carry out of state you need to verify if the states you are traveling to recognize your license. If not you are in violation of those states law.

[Bawanna]

This is exactly right. Before you carry out of state you need to verify if the states you are traveling to recognize your license. If not you are in violation of those states law.

Which means you have to immediately look around and see if you can find anyone that cares.

I've looked numerous times and failed to find anyone yet.

Be good, drive legal, keep your vehicle up to snuff and don't worry too much. This is still America.

[xsailer]

In the two classes I've had both were taught by off duty Police. They suggested unless asked don't mention anything about CC. They said don't invite an over zealous officer or a newbie to get in your face.

[ParabellumJ]

Concealed Carry license and traffic stops. Penna

Which means you have to immediately look around and see if you can find anyone that cares.

I've looked numerous times and failed to find anyone yet.

Be good, drive legal, keep your vehicle up to snuff and don't worry too much. This is still America.

I can guarantee if found with a weapon on you in a state that does not recognize your license the cop and the judge will care. It's a felony, and a defense of "this is still America" isn't a strong one. You can do as you like, but I would prefer to not knowingly commit a felony with a firearm.

[jocko]

indeed

In the two classes I've had both were taught by off duty Police. They suggested unless asked don't mention anything about CC. They said don't invite an over zealous officer or a newbie to get in your face.

a very common sense statement by a cop.

[jocko]

indeed

In the two classes I've had both were taught by off duty Police. They suggested unless asked don't mention anything about CC. They said don't invite an over zealous officer or a newbie to get in your face.

a very common sense statement by a cop.

I think it pays alot also to not be a DICK kwhen pulled over. Be polite,do what asked, and ur ot gonna get harrassed by a cop. They are not pullin u over becuase they know u got a gun but because u violated some traffic law which willgetu a ticket at best and if ur anol foggy likeOl jocko, many times they will let me go. Ihave been let go many times on myhARLEY AFTER THE COP WHO PULLED me over realized I was 70 and ready to die,so they let me go with a warning and sometimes just general conversation once he knew I was an OK person.I can tell in asecondif the cop who pulled meover is gonna be a DICK andI go right into my "yessir" mode andif I amcrraying in a NO NO stateu can bet ur sweet ass I am in a yes sir mode..