To Kahr: Fix the P380 or quit selling it.

[TheTman]

I just called my LGS, they have a pink frame TCP that they think I should get. LOL.
Told em it would clash with my Mauve Teddi.
They did have a S&W Bodyguard .380 for a good price I'm gonna check out.

[JFootin]

Here is a forum post comparing the S&W Bodyguard with the LCP with the CT laser.

LCP VS S&W Bodyguard 380 at the range.
I was at an indoor range today and the Smith & Wesson rep was there letting the employees use the Bodyguard 380 and 38 special he brought with him. I got to try the 380 and did a comparison with my chrome slide LCP with a Crimson Trace laser on it. We all agreed the LCP had a much lighter and better trigger and hence more accurate than the S&W. With my LCP, I'm able to keep groups sizes to around 2 inches or smaller at 8 yards, but with the S&W, they opened up to 4 inches or larger. Also, the laser button was difficult to get to function. There's no way to use it in a hurry and it's supposed to work from either side, but the left side did not work.

Everyone there who shot them agreed that the LCP with a CT was far, far superior to the S&W Bodyguard 380 in function and accuracy.

[kahrlover123]

Anyone has any article that compares LCP vs TCP?

[JFootin]

Just Google search for "LCP vs TCP" and you'll be reading for a long time.

[JFootin]

Gun Websites 10 gun 380 Shootout, 1 of 5 videos in series:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N16eT...eature=related

[TheTman]

I just like the fact that the Bodyguard has a safety, you can slip it in your pocket without a holster. Not recommended, but doable.

[knkali]

Funny, I do not like safeties on my carry gun. Dont want to forget during an adrenalin dump that it is on.

[HadEmAll]

I checked the safety on my BG380 to see if it worked after taking it out of the box. I've never touched it since in 300 rounds and 3 months.

There is no real reason to ever use it with that trigger pull. Must have been put there to make it sellable is some of the states with repressive gun laws. It's small, unobtrusive, easy to forget it's there, and a non-issue in my opinion.

[JodyH]

My P380 is on its way back from Kahr with its third frame (original plus two replacements) if it doesn't work this time around I'm going to request (demand is more like it) that my P380 be replaced with a PM9 (or CM9) with night sights and 3 magazines (the same configuration as my P380).
This is their last chance to make it work as far as i'm concerned.

[carnesee]

Try the Taurus TCP .380, themanski. I have one and it has been flawless. It's one of the early "A" series, too.

[TheTman]

I skipped on the .380, and wound up with a Ruger LC9. Fits in pocket and cost the same as what I got out of the pistol and accesories I sold. Has a safety so can be pocket carried without a holster.
For $120 more I could have got a CM9, probably would have got it if they'd had a pocket holster for it. But not about to carry that in my pocket without something to protect the trigger.
I think they'll trade up to the CM9 if I can find a pocket holster somewhere.

[yqtszhj]

Anyone wanting to buy a recent made .380, go get 2 LCP's. Not a P380. My LCP has been basically flawless. I have even shot junk ammo through it. I would buy another one in a minute.

I have not seen such negative reviews on a pistol since visiting the KT reviews. There have been a few issues with the CM9 but mine has been excellent. I don't recall seeing even one good post on the P380 in recent months. It's an embarrassment.

[TheTman]

I was sitting here thinking about trading up to the CM9, but I kinda like the idea of having a safety on a gun in my front pocket that's pointed in the general direction of Richard and the twins. I do like the Kahr trigger much better, but am having a tough time with the manual safety issue.

[Ljutic]

I had to buy two P380's before getting one that worked reliably. The first went back to the factory (on my dime since they wouldn't send me a call tag as it was still a very new model and they were still arrogant and claiming the gun model was problem free), but still had occasional pre-mature slide lock back even after return and trying a 3rd slide stop.

The second has been fantastic as have my CW45, P45, and PM9.

I agree they need to fix the issues.

[Longitude Zero]

Anyone who relies on a 380 to defend themselves has little/no regard for their safety. At least get a 9mm.