If all things were equal and the pm45 was running as well as the glock doe's, I would take the kahr 1st.( because of the size). With the issues I've had with the pm45 I will need to regain confidence in it. I'm sure the issues can be delt with and it will as trustworthy as the glock. I would buy it again even knowing what I know now.
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Hopefully it is a magazine problem, I forget, did you try more than one?
I bought extra PM40 mags from Kahr, one 6-round was not sealed in a bag, maybe used &
returned? No scratches, looked OK. It would not pick up the last round, and would
unlatch after round 5 was fired. Didn't drop out, just "unclicked". Sent it back, they sent
me a good one, works fine.
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Originally posted by Bawanna45cal View PostIf all things were running as they should you would opt for the PM45 over the G36? Without reservation? Brutal honesty requested. I'm hankering for a PM45 as everyone here by now knows but I'm a bit timid. I had a 36 before and a 30 and most of the others. Was thinking of getting another 36 until the PM's are worked out or better yet they make a steel 45 like a K series.
Just kind of curious to add your thoughts to the rest.
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Originally posted by jbaker View Posti really had to hang my head down before i typed this i woyuld choose the glock, NO WAIT... like you said if all things running as they should I WOULD PICK THE GLOCK, no im just messing around all things equal/EQUAL for a sub compact 45 i would , and did pick THE KAHR PM45 ALL THE WAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY.................. .............
That being said it tends to be my home safe queen, as my PM9 just fits in my pocket so perfectly and it has never let me down in over 25,000 rounds and as u all know if your glock or sig or hk or what ever is sitting at home and your out somewhere, then they really aren't worth a sh-t..My PM9 fills that void perfectly every day..
Now if glock made a 9mm the size of the PM9 in weight to, would I own one?? You betcha I would.. My PM9 has over 34,000+ rounds through it, and runs much better than an illegal trying to get across our border
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G19 grip fits me perfectly,the pm45 grip is fine for me too with the 5rnd mag i can get my pinky on and thats all that matters ,i like it, now back to this thread let me check and see if my pm45's breech face has a gap, hold on---- yes it does, verry little, but the stripper does sit behind the cartrage and if i pull the slide back all the way which is im sure how far it goes back when fireing the gap is bigger(plenty of room) mine was made in 08 though ser number sa745#
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Originally posted by jocko View Postmy G19, best shooter I have ever owned. great gun, but u must like it to, it has it quirks some hat ethe blockeness of them, Bigger fatter grip. Never the two been an issue with me. Just a great gun.
That being said it tends to be my home safe queen, as my PM9 just fits in my pocket so perfectly and it has never let me down in over 25,000 rounds and as u all know if your glock or sig or hk or what ever is sitting at home and your out somewhere, then they really aren't worth a sh-t..My PM9 fills that void perfectly every day..
Now if glock made a 9mm the size of the PM9 in weight to, would I own one?? You betcha I would.). Since Glock is not willing to give me (us) what I (we) want and other manufactures are, hence I own the Kahrs line which are my second favorite weapons on me. As the Oracle indicated(echo) should Glock come out with one that is as portable and convenient as the Kahr, I would buy it on heart beat!
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Originally posted by jeep45238 View PostBrass jackets wont' hurt a thing. It's softer than copper, harder than lead, and both have been shot for a long time out of barrels without a problem. Still way softer than the steel used in barrels, so no issues.
Heck, I'm looking at the required equipment to start making .45cal FMJ/JHP out of .40 casings and cast lead, and .40 FMJ/JHP out of 9mm casings and cast lead.
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That has nothing to do with hardness. It does have everything to do with original size vs. bore size.
Let me guess the brass jacketed bullet you were testing : Remington Golden saber?
Golden sabers are smaller than usual everywhere but the very base, there it is slightly larger than normal. They call this the 'driving band', which allows a good gas seal and reduces friction between the barrel and the bullet.
What you were measuring has nothing to do with hardness or young's modulus.~Mike F.
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Originally posted by jbaker View Postglock NEEDS to make a single stack line of sub-compacts
Same thing goes for the single stack glock. lack of points to import. Might be a cop out to but one would think that making a lighweight single stack in the size of kahrs would make alot of sense, unless glock cannot squeeze all their lower parts into such a thinner style frame... My PM9 has over 34,000+ rounds through it, and runs much better than an illegal trying to get across our border
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Originally posted by jocko View Postwhat I have been told. Like their 380 glock, it cannot be imported to the U.S. as it does not meet the minimum point requirement of rimportation, Only for sale to LEO's.
Same thing goes for the single stack glock. lack of points to import. Might be a cop out to but one would think that making a lighweight single stack in the size of kahrs would make alot of sense, unless glock cannot squeeze all their lower parts into such a thinner style frame..if they built around the current ejector housing and locking block a single stack mag they could stuff all 11
parts in a thin frame
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Originally posted by jbaker View Postthey also probably dont build a single stack bc they dont care. i mean they have a good portion of the hg market as is, there doing fine and dont probably see the need.
Looking at the Gen 4 changes, it sure looks like the M&P series put a shiver down Glock's spine~Mike F.
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Originally posted by jeep45238 View PostLooking at the Gen 4 changes, it sure looks like the M&P series put a shiver down Glock's spine. My PM9 has over 34,000+ rounds through it, and runs much better than an illegal trying to get across our border
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Hopefully it is a magazine problem, I forget, did you try more than one?
I bought extra PM40 mags from Kahr, one 6-round was not sealed in a bag, maybe used &
returned? No scratches, looked OK. It would not pick up the last round, and would
unlatch after round 5 was fired. Didn't drop out, just "unclicked". Sent it back, they sent
me a good one, works fine.
I used the two that came with it. Both did the same thing . It may not be the magazines, just wishful thinking.
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