New pm9 feels wierd.

[predestyned]

well as i said my gun came back .
turn- around was 10 days.
it appears, from what i can tell, that they cut off a few coils of spring from original and polished/rounded of the edge of the recoil assy. the part that comes through the hole after pulling slide about 1" they filed the sharp edge away and polished it up giving it a nice bevel .
well i took the gun out today and ran 100 rds, through it with zero , "0" malfunctions(quickly knocks on wood)
i took it apart, cleaned it, and ran 4 more clips through it with zero malfunctions.
seems to be working as designed.

[deadhead1971]

Action taken:
Inspected gun.Replaced recoil spring assy.Polished parts as needed.Lubed test fired good.

It's nice to see a happy face. The above means that you got a whole new guide rod and spring assembly. They should not have cut some coils off the original spring because that would not fix anything because at around 1,200 to 1,400 rds, you will need to replace the outter 18 lb recoil spring.

So how does it shoot?

[predestyned]

it's nice to see a happy face. The above means that you got a whole new guide rod and spring assembly. They should not have cut some coils off the original spring because that would not fix anything because at around 1,200 to 1,400 rds, you will need to replace the outter 18 lb recoil spring.

So how does it shoot?

no they definately trimmed the spring. It is significantly shorter and the cut mark is obvious, bright/shiny in stark contrast to the dark spring.
Shoots great but at 7 yds it hits really low??about 2" from p.o.a.

[deadhead1971]

I hope that is not what they did because you will have the same issue when you change out the spring later down the road. I'll wait and see what the others here have to say.

regarding your hitting low, trick question, look here Sight Picture - Bob Tuley

Which do you use? For me one method will always hit low.

[Bawanna]

I hope that is not what they did because you will have the same issue when you change out the spring later down the road. I'll wait and see what the others here have to say.

regarding your hitting low, trick question, look here Sight Picture - Bob Tuley

Which do you use? For me one method will always hit low.

They could also have replaced the spring with new that they cut to the proper length, would be hard to tell. I'd take note of how it looks so when/if you replace it you'll know what it looks like in case you have to tweak a new one. Long as it works, that's the main thing.
The hitting low is also a common thing until you get used to the trigger. Seems to be a tendency to pull low as the trigger is squeezed, sometimes low left or low right depending on right or left hand preference although deadheads theory could also certainly be the issue. Let someone else shoot it and see where their group ends up and it might provide some clues.

[jocko]

totally agree

I hope that is not what they did because you will have the same issue when you change out the spring later down the road. I'll wait and see what the others here have to say.

regarding your hitting low, trick question, look here Sight Picture - Bob Tuley

Which do you use? For me one method will always hit low.

I would doubt kahr would do any recoil spring trimming. Just make sno sense but again not calling out Predestined on it either. He has them both in his hands to see also.

good ol snap caps inserted in a loaded magazine "somewhere" will certainly show shooter errors, like pulling low.

[predestyned]

i hope that is not what they did because you will have the same issue when you change out the spring later down the road. I'll wait and see what the others here have to say.

Regarding your hitting low, trick question, look here sight picture - bob tuley

which do you use? For me one method will always hit low.

i use the six o'clock method.
Gun did not shoot low before i sent it away? Makes no sense?

[deadhead1971]

The 6 o'clock will shoot low for me. try the other way. Put the front sight to cover up the POI.

[predestyned]

the one on top is original.
the bottom one was in gun when returned from Kahr.

[deadhead1971]

The one on the bottom has less rings. ? Is it possible they had a P9 spring in your PM9? The P9 has a longer barrel.

When you get a new spring, it will be longer in length. And then once you put it in the slide and shoot some rounds, it will compress down about 1.4" less in length than when you first put in in there. This is normal.

Let me know if you want me to take some pics of my springs. I have 3 new wolf brand recoil springs that are still in the packaging. The recoil spring on the gun is a wolf brand with 50 rds on it. But it has compressed down to 1/4" shorter.

[Bawanna]

The two springs aren't oriented the same in the picture but the above spring does appear to have 1 extra coil. Kind of had to guess a bit. The length judging by the picture doesn't appear too far off especially if the extra coil was cut off.
An overall length measurement and coil count on Deadheads new and slightly used springs might tell the story.
If the gun runs good now just need to maintain that new spring length and all should be fine.

[deadhead1971]

i'll try to give a spring report tomorrow. Summer starts in a few days, and it's 90 F here today.

:75:

[Bawanna]

i'll try to give a spring report tomorrow. Summer starts in a few days, and it's 90 F here today.

:75:

My daughter just returned from Charlotte night before last. Picked her up at midnight at SeaTac. Her first words were it was HOT! But she likes it back there. This was her second visit to her fiances family. She got to see a race on her first trip and of course a trip to Bass Pro Shops. I'm so jealous.
I'm happy to see her visit back there, being from Missouri myself I know there seems to be a better class of people in the south east. Cept maybe Florida, the jury is still out on Wynn and a few other down there. Could be his meds or maybe just the heat.

[jocko]

P9

The one on the bottom has less rings. ? Is it possible they had a P9 spring in your PM9? The P9 has a longer barrel.

When you get a new spring, it will be longer in length. And then once you put it in the slide and shoot some rounds, it will compress down about 1.4" less in length than when you first put in in there. This is normal.

Let me know if you want me to take some pics of my springs. I have 3 new wolf brand recoil springs that are still in the packaging. The recoil spring on the gun is a wolf brand with 50 rds on it. But it has compressed down to 1/4" shorter.

does not use a captive dual spring recoil system. If one woud go buy the wolffs extra power PM9 recoil spring which is 20.5# over kahr factory 18#, he will find more coils on the 20.5# springs. I have the 20.5 on my PM9 and have had for the past couple of years, with zero issues. So if your recoil spring has an extra coil, just dont worry about it, as it won't hinder one thing. Why these factory kahr springs sometimes show one coil more than others could possable be sometimes the way the coil springs are wound. Put it in the gun and just shoot it like you stole it. I would just be very surpirsed to hear of kahr cutting a spring as wolffs makes all of kahrs springs

Kahr uses the same PM9 springs in the PM40 and we know there is a difference in felt recoil between those two guns, so going fromt he 18# facotry weight tothe 20.5 in the PM40 to me certainly is a wise decision and I have proven to myself that in the PM9 it hasn't hurt a thing either and my pM9 is also magna ported..

[predestyned]

Shoots great but at 7 yds it hits really low??about 2" from p.o.a.

ok. i found out that the problem was me and not the gun. when shooting low i was shooting with glasses. i could see the sights clear as day but the target was a bit fuzzy.
i shot today without glasses and sights were fuzzy but target was crystal clear and problem fixed. btw i just need glasses to read .
i know now to never shoot with glasses although i do like seeing sights and target clearly.
i guess it was kind of making the target an optical illusion .like looking through a fish tank? i really want to like this lil' gun. it is hard not to. i am extremely pleased with her since getting her back from kahr. accuracy is excellent and reliability is 100%.

6 shots at 21 feet, with- hornady critical defense 115 gr.