Ammo Taylored To Micro Compacts

[Bawanna]

I'm waiting for a response from the CEO of Dell. My J and N keys are different than the ones I tried in the store too. He might not care about mine since it's a HP but never hurts to ask.

Tilos, I'm gonna try the paper/pencil trick. Never thought of that, so I'll add it to the list of things I never thought of.

By the way I loved your suggestion to Old Lincoln on measuring 10 powder charges an going for an average. I constantly fight that .01 grain charge thing all the time.

You got some first class ideas stored in that head of yours.

[ripley16]

Anybody on line have a Crono and the desire to fire some different ammo, short not so short an record data. Could be interesting! Volocity counts!

Speer claims 1150 fps at the muzzle for the SB Gold Dot. That's pretty fast for a 3.5" barrel, 154 gr. bullet.
http://www.speer-ammo.com/ballistics...x?loadNo=23611

The SBGD clocks in at 1039 fps at the 50 yard mark... still humming along. That compares very well to Winchester PDX1 moving along at 1095 fps at 50 yards.

The only reason I don't use the SBGD in my P9 is that I don't shoot it as well as the Hornady TAP or the PDX1. Otherwise Gold Dot is on my short list of best ammo to carry.

[Bawanna]

I've done some research into this and today read, on another forum, about some further testing Speer had done independently, of it's short barrel ammo.
It seems thru testing, Speer found that heavy winter clothing affects the expansion of it's new short barrel ammo.
Speer will be revising the bullet design and start production of short barrel ammo for use in cold weather.
























I'm kidding...I'll shut up now.
Tilos

Tilos, I was absorbing your scientific presentation and since I already had my brain warmed up and had taken a couple advil I was giving it some serious thought when I arrived at this very important question that has plagued me for some time.

Do you pronounce you name tilos like TEA LOS, or tilos like TIE LOS? Always been kind of curious.

[Tilos]

Mr.B
WoW, now I know I'll never get accused of thread drift.

Tilos is a compilation of 2 words related to a different hobby and not anything ethnic.
It's like "Tea Lowes" but some see it and think a**hole!!!!
just sayin'
Tilos

[johnh]

I hate to sound contrary, but I started carrying cheaper JHPs that I could afford to shoot in bulk--at least on my guns I want to shoot a lot. Just to have some consistency between practice and what I carry. I tend to think that since anything I shoot will likely get shot at least twice, and probably a at least seven or eight times , the performance of each individual shot is not as vital. However, I do carry more expensive ammo in my K9 just because I have some extra TAP and Hydrashocks. If I could afford to shoot piles of high quality defensive ammo, I would probably carry that in everything.

[ripley16]

Just to have some consistency ...

That's the reason I like to practice with either of two rounds, yet carry the expensive ammo. Both Speer Lawman and NATO ball ammo closely replicate the recoil, "feel" and accuracy that I get out of my carry ammo. I shoot something like a 10:1 ratio of cheaper priced to expensive ammo. The practice ammo is 1/3 to 1/4 cheaper than carry ammo prices and thank goodness, or my range time would be even more limited than it is.

[garyb]

I know it is disputable how Corbon worded it in their communication to me, but they actually used a Kahr PM40 to design their DPX 140gr ammo. I'd have to say they were designing an ammo for the micro compact in 40cal. I am not shooting the Corbon 40 DPX yet, but do have plans to try it this year. Just throwing my 2 cents in here. I believe this is a good ammo and everyone that use it seem to endorse it. I'd recommend at least looking at their site.

[earle8888]

johnh--- As I stated awhile back in a post. It is the best to practice with same ammo as you carry.
A while back, I made the decision to have PM40 as my carry--not too big BUT big enough---that said--I committed to practicing with the expensive stuff. Many $1 round, thus app.$50 a month, minimum, shooting other handguns less or with handloads with cheap bullets. Believe that I would be better off wasting money on ammo because I didn't need it for protection, that to have a less than ideal out come and question myself if I had used the expensive stuff the out come would have been different!

[100percent]

I don't shoot much factory ammo so I haven't used anything special. I have shot 155 180 and 200 grain hand loads from my Kahr PM40 and find they all shoot to point of aim out to at least 40' if I keep the loads to within .1-.2 grains of book max. I have other snub barreled guns that almost demand a particular ammo.

[jocko]

can't disagree with John H or earle8888 on this ammo thing, but for me I shoot my PM9 probably 5X more than most ever will and to shoot defense stuff 234/7 is not feasable as far as my wallet is concerned. I shoot out my defense magazine alotat the range and start anew, but it has been ages since I have went to the range with a 100 or even 50 rounds of high dollar defense stuff, just to punch paper. At 7 yards, I see really no diffenrece in wwb fmj over my corbon ammo, Maybe magna porting helps that to, I can't say, but cut wise I shoot far more than one who just shoots high dollar ammo, so I kinda think there is a trae off there somewhere.. I also tend to buy defense ammo as I see it on sale to, so nothing says that my corbon 125 hp that is in my PM9 today willbe3 used two months from now, as Ia m found of gold dots, power ball and corbon...For me at 7 yards if every round goes bang and is clsoe to where I am pointing, ol jocko goes home witha smile on his face,

[ripley16]

...is not feasable as far as my wallet is concerned.

Amen to that. The cost of even practice ammo has caused me to drop my annual ammo usage from a past level of 6-8000 per year, down to a little over 2000 rounds. It just costs to much to shoot 100% carry ammo.

[jocko]

I hate it when winter hits our area, as I tend to just not go out to the outdoor range and fight the weather just to hear it go bang. I miss. so I guess I willjust stay home and "bang" something else.

[ripley16]

Ahhhh... the other short barrel.

[jocko]

and

Ahhhh... the other short barrel.

at my age I tend to shoot "lighter" loads to.

[ripley16]

Be happy the hammer falls and the powder burns.