Wish list for Kahr - Double Stack

[ltxi]

Just sayin' "1911" by definition references a single action semi-auto built in the traditional pattern. A DA/DAO version I see as perhaps "1911 style", but not "1911".

[dao]

This thread reminds me of one on a glock board before the 42 and 43 came about. Everyone was lusting after a glock singlestack. I think a kahr doublestack would sell, there's always someone who will love a gun, any gun. But I personally would like to see Kahr continue doing what they do well, and maybe improve on out of the box reliability some, while leaving the fatter guns to others that already do them well.
I'm interested to learn if their new "racking machine" will result in guns shipping that really do require less break-in rounds downrange, as well as less of a need to send some back to the factory. When I first got into Kahrs many years ago, and participated on some of the older boards I don't recall hearing of so many people having issues with their new Kahrs. I'd like very much to see that be the case again. In the meantime I enjoy my Kahrs for what they have always been to me, deeply and comfortably concealable.

[Armybrat]

Well, many years ago there were no plastic Kahrs, so that may have been the reason for fewer complaints?

[dao]

My second Kahr was a PM9, bought in June of 2003. It's been rock solid from the beginning. I'm not sure what has happened, though it could have something to do with the fact that internet use has grown and the number of complaints vs. praise may be disproportionate.

[O'Dell]

Ok, aside from the blasphemy to JMB and tradition... Sig offers the same gun with different trigger types, but no one bashes them for it. Ruger does the same with the LC9 (or did, anyway). Ruger also offered some of the P- series with three trigger types - DA/SA with safety, DA/SA decocker only, and DAO.

We keep lusting for an all metal .45ACP with a DAO type of trigger. Colt did it but, what? Is it like Communism, it works but just hasn't been tried by the right people?

I've fired a DAO SIG in 45, A DAK P220, and I hated it. However, I do like the DA/SA on the standard SIG, HK, and others. If I don't want to put up with the DA first shot, I just cock the hammer - problem solved.

BTW, I do own a SA only SIG - A C3 1911.

[Bawanna]

That's the thing, many of the guys here tried my LDA Para's and hated it. They weren't used to it and it was foreign to them. I think given time they would come to like it.
I never shot it but I got to play with a Sig DAK I think it was a 220 SAS, all melted down. I loved everything about that gun.

[MMyers1970]

I regularly carry a CM9 with a spare magazine.I don't feel undergunned with that. I also regularly carry a CW380 with a reload. I don't feel undergunned there either.

But if Kahr could bring out their own P365 on the PM9 frame, I'd be all over it.

But, realistically, the chances of needing more ammo than my CM9 carries is pretty rare. The most likely defensive gun use is going to be a one-on-one incident in which 1-3 rounds are fired. Multiple attacker scenario in which one would expend numerous rounds is highly unlikely. I think millions of people carry J frames and are well served. The people who walk around with G19s and two spare magazines(which they are free to do) seem a bit excessive to me.

Sometimes people crack me up. There's the "what if there's a terrorist/mass shooter" crowd---as if I want to engage a rifleman with even a G19. Then there's the guys who obsessively practice quick draw. Yes, it's good to be able to rapidly draw and fire----but it's very difficult to out draw a drawn gun. I suspect these people also regularly spend their time in public head down, staring at their cell phones.

But a double stack Kahr would find a home with me regardless.

[Armybrat]

Nobody does slim better than Kahr, and I’d rather have a double stack from them than anyone else. More boolets is better, just because I don’t like to carry an extra mag. Already have too much crap in my other pockets.

[CPTKILLER]

Kahr needs to innovate or evaporate.

[DavidR]

I’d just like to see Magguts make plus 1 kits with their z-spring setup for Kahr’s 6 and 7 round 9mm magazines.

[CM9]

Interesting thought about double stack mags........BUT Kahr has been the king of small single stack pistols....the trend seems to be shifting in that direction...look how long it took S&W to bring the Shield and Glock
theG43..Khar was already building little guns.

[JohnR]

There's the "what if there's a terrorist/mass shooter" crowd---as if I want to engage a rifleman with even a G19. Then there's the guys who obsessively practice quick draw. Yes, it's good to be able to rapidly draw and fire----but it's very difficult to out draw a drawn gun. I suspect these people also regularly spend their time in public head down, staring at their cell phones.

But a double stack Kahr would find a home with me regardless.

No one knows the circumstances we'll be found in. There are so many variables, one cannot say, "Oh well, if there's a rifleman in a crowd I guess I'll just die." That kind of fatalism will get you killed. Always have a plan to fight evil.

[Bawanna]

My plan is to stay at the fort and let evil come to me.

[BirdsThaWord]

That's the thing, many of the guys here tried my LDA Para's and hated it. They weren't used to it and it was foreign to them. I think given time they would come to like it.
I never shot it but I got to play with a Sig DAK I think it was a 220 SAS, all melted down. I loved everything about that gun.

I miss the carry LDA 9mm I once had, Yes, DA in a 1911 was very cool. I think that was the first frame I ever polished. Actually, first gun I ever fully dissasembled. I will have one again one day!

[JohnR]

Food for thought...

"Of all the active shooter events there were 33 at which an armed citizen was present. Of those, Armed Citizens were successful at stopping the Active shooter 75% of the time (25 incidents) and were successful in reducing the loss of life in an additional 20% (6) of incidents. In only 2 of the 33 incidents (5%) was the Armed Citizen(s) not helpful in any way in stopping the active shooter or reducing the loss of life."

https://www.concealedcarry.com/news/...er-events-fbi/