Accidental discharges

[MW surveyor]

rwblue01 - Well lets see....I've been driving since I was 14 legally and a bit before that without any license what ever. I'm 63 now and for the last oh 49 years have never had or been involved in an accident. Lucky? Maybe.

Never had an AD or ND for that matter.

Think I'm due for either?

[ltxi]

Familiarity breeds contempt. Forget that and you end up hurt. Took me three ex-wives to properly grasp the concept. But I eventually learned and this one's still around after pushing 25 years.

I still think I've just cursed myself and am going to end up back here tomorrow confessing I've either just blown a hole in my foot or found a new mistress.

[MW surveyor]

Well, the mistress is the better thing to have than a hole in the foot. But then again if the wife found out....On second thought maybe the hole in the foot is better, would probably cost less in the long run.

[Bawanna]

Familiarity breeds contempt. Forget that and you end up hurt. Took me three ex-wives to properly grasp the concept. But I eventually learned and this one's still around after pushing 25 years.

I still think I've just cursed myself and am going to end up back here tomorrow confessing I've either just blown a hole in my foot or found a new mistress.

I'm gonna send an urgent message to Jocko. In addition to knowing all things Kahr related he's into VooDoo. I figure he can build ya a force field to ward off evil demons and squash that curse you put on yourself.

If you start having a hard time breathing let me know, that means he's got the plastic wrap too tight around your head.

Stand by!

In the mean time stay away from sharp objects, ladders, guns or anything explosive. Might avoid the missus for a bit too. Your on your own on the mistress thing, thats way beyond any voo doo power.

[ltxi]

Current wife is 18 years younger, knows the previous versions, and is friends with two. She's also not stupid. So at this point/my age/energy level I think the hole in foot would be a much better option. It might actually even feel better....uh, did I just say that?

[Dietrich]

My wife killing me doesn`t scare me.However,I firmly believe she could make me wish I was dead and that`s far worse.

[ltxi]

In the mean time stay away from sharp objects, ladders, guns or anything explosive. Might avoid the missus for a bit too.

Contradiction in terms/oxymoron

[Bawanna]

Well this is my lucky day, I ain't never been called a contradicted oxymoron before. I might have to go look that one up.

[rwblue01]

Think I'm due for either?

Anyone adept at statistics and probability says yes.



Then again, technically my mother can say the same thing. She has been around guns all her life and as far as I know she has never been in an accident. Odds are she will not have an AD because she doesn't handle guns very often and will probably not get into any car accidents because she is driven around most of the time.

[paul34]

So I assume you have never been in a car accident?

One can follow all the rules of proper driving courtesies and driving in a safe manner, yet still end up in a collision due to someone else's mistake. If I made a mistake, then yes, the collision is absolutely my fault. In addition, driving involves a lot more variables needed to stay safe and collision free compared to a firearm in most of the cases the majority of us will encounter.

With a car, sometimes you can get away with not using your signal. With a gun, there are very rarely any second chances.

That's why you must always follow the four rules. Have I caught myself getting apathetic about those rules? Absolutely. Anyone who starts getting more comfortable with firearms will encounter that moment. Fighting that trend of apathy is incumbent on all responsible gun owners.

I'm not saying we all have to be perfect. Lord knows I certainly am not. However, I am saying that we can help prevent negligent discharges by just never getting apathetic with a few simple principles. I constantly have to be harsh with myself to not do something careless.

Owning and especially carrying firearms is a very serious responsibility.

I understand what you mean by basically saying "unintentional = accidental" (if that is what you mean - if not, I apologize). But, at least in my experience, using ND and AD as two separate terms does help a bit.

[rwblue01]

I understand what you mean by basically saying "unintentional = accidental" (if that is what you mean - if not, I apologize). But, at least in my experience, using ND and AD as two separate terms does help a bit.

You have the idea. Accident = unintentional and maybe even not smart actions.

The problem with using negligent is it gives the anti-gun people power.


There was a bus crash the other day. 4 people are dead, many more hurt. Is it negligent homicide or accidental? Accident he looses his license and in civil court he is screwed. Negligent he serves time.



If it was mechanical, it is accidental.

If it was medical, it is an accident.

If he just miss read the sign like the guy in Atlanta the other year, it is accidental. (bus takes a left exit and crashes over a concrete wall.)

In this case, he fell a sleep and is being charged......it is negligent homicide. Odds are he will be serving time, for falling a sleep and your tax dollars will pay for his incarceration.


On the gun front.
If after a long day of fighting crime putting crack dealers in jail a police officer unholsters his gun. Then he remembers he has no food in his apartment. So he is going out for Chinese. When reholstering his gun it goes off killing the guy down stairs. (Everyone is sad, but lets face it he played his music too loud and Karma caught up with him.) The cop swears his finger was not on the trigger, but it is a Kahr PM9 and we know they just don't go off on their own.

Is it an accident, or do we toss the cop in jail?

[ltxi]

Well this is my lucky day, I ain't never been called a contradicted oxymoron before. I might have to go look that one up.

Not you, Bawanna....the concept of "In the mean time stay away from sharp objects, ladders, guns or anything explosive. Might avoid the missus for a bit too."

Actually, I misspoke. Pretty much all the same thing.

[Bawanna]

Not you, Bawanna....the concept of "In the mean time stay away from sharp objects, ladders, guns or anything explosive. Might avoid the missus for a bit too."

Actually, I misspoke. Pretty much all the same thing.

Shucks, guess this means I don't get to be one huh?

I kind of liked Wyns lingo, contradicted moron on oxy? How'd that go again, where'd it go. This must be the day day of take backs, he deleted it.

I'm back to plain ole carpet glue I reckon..........

[MW surveyor]

I almost always have an accidental discharge when I read some of the things posted by Dietrich! (In his "non-serious" mode that is)

Oh wait, some of the things......never mind.

[wyntrout]

Dang, I can't even remember... controversial moron on oxy??

Wynn