Has anybody tried Mag Safe Ammo?

[Mr. S]

Looks pretty effective to me! He made a good point about having another mag full of normal rounds if a situation warrants it. That's probably a good idea anyway; because, if the situation isn't handled with the first 7 rounds, time to pull out the Gold Bond +p.

Why would you need to do that?
The magsafe outperformed all the hollowpoints in the Strasbourg tests.
And they are much better for one shot stops as well...

[Mr. S]

BINGO!

I suspect that's why most LEO's (to my knowledge) don't carry frangible ammo for duty use. The ability to penetrate barriers might be necessary for a cop. For a civilian who is supposed to AVOID trouble at all reasonable costs, however, barrier penetration can be a liability.

But I thought Navy Seals use magsafe..it says so in their add?

[JFootin]

MrS,

MagSafe is well known ammo that is sold by most large ammo dealers. We know you don't like it. Fine. You are entitled to your opinion. It looks like you just want to argue, and that is not what I want to do with this thread. I want to hear from people who have ACTUALLY TRIED this ammo. You haven't done so. I don't want to hear all this from someone who has no actual experience with the ammo. And I don't want to get into an argument. Peace to you, but move on. Please!

[Vanzpp]

Fackler's attacks on M&S are dubious at best, ad hominem at worst.

http://arxiv.org/ftp/physics/papers/0701/0701268.pdf

I just got back from the range this evening to test my CW9 with its new slide and barrel. Sent another 8 round pack of the Magsafe Mini-glock load downrange without a hitch.

[Vanzpp]

MrS,

MagSafe is well known ammo that is sold by most large ammo dealers. We know you don't like it. Fine. You are entitled to your opinion. It looks like you just want to argue, and that is not what I want to do with this thread. I want to hear from people who have ACTUALLY TRIED this ammo. You haven't done so. I don't want to hear all this from someone who has no actual experience with the ammo. And I don't want to get into an argument. Peace to you, but move on. Please!

Some people, for whatever reason, have huge egos--even online.

Don't like Magsafe? Then don't carry it. No one here is saying "Get rid of those Gold Dots and carry Magsafe ammo only!!"

To each his own.

[bamaman]

I've never tried them myself, but I have seen an XRay of a dude shot from the side through his upper arm with a magsafe 380 load. It was devastating. Pellets all in the lungs, and heart. Yes it killed him.

[crazymailman]

I've not tried the Magsafe, but have tried the Glaser. They really impressed me in the whallop they pack. I know that some people are all about penetration, but something has to be said for the transfer of energy. Think of the damage a 55gr HP .223 traveling 3000fps does.

[Vanzpp]

i've never tried them myself, but i have seen an xray of a dude shot from the side through his upper arm with a magsafe 380 load. It was devastating. Pellets all in the lungs, and heart. Yes it killed him.

yeah, baby!!!!!!!:86:

[Mr. S]

MrS,

MagSafe is well known ammo that is sold by most large ammo dealers. We know you don't like it. Fine. You are entitled to your opinion. It looks like you just want to argue, and that is not what I want to do with this thread. I want to hear from people who have ACTUALLY TRIED this ammo. You haven't done so. I don't want to hear all this from someone who has no actual experience with the ammo. And I don't want to get into an argument. Peace to you, but move on. Please!

What makes you think I haven't tried it?
Go ahead and waste your money I personally don't care.
I just dont want other people to believe the hype of these overpriced rounds.

[JFootin]

What makes you think I haven't tried it?
Go ahead and waste your money I personally don't care.
I just dont want other people to believe the hype of these overpriced rounds.

Oh. You tried them. What was your experience with them? You have expressed a lot of dislike for them and quoted a lot of articles. But what I wanted to hear was people's actual experience with them. So, what gives? Did they miss the target by 3 feet? Hit the target and explode without penetrating? Not cycle properly through your gun? What round(s) and gun(s) did you test them with?

[Vanzpp]

I just bought another pack of the 9mm +P Stealth load yesterday...

[Mr. S]

Oh. You tried them. What was your experience with them? You have expressed a lot of dislike for them and quoted a lot of articles. But what I wanted to hear was people's actual experience with them. So, what gives? Did they miss the target by 3 feet? Hit the target and explode without penetrating? Not cycle properly through your gun? What round(s) and gun(s) did you test them with?

It was probably 5 years ago.My friend and I were at a range renting some glocks and they had magsafe,glaser and cci shotshells in 9mm so we bought some of each and shot them.I think the load I used was called defender or something like that.The main thing I remember about the performance was they seemed loud compared to standard 9mm range ammo.They seemed accurate enough but my only complaint (at the time) was the price at almost $20 for 8 rounds I said it would cost $100 to fill the mags in a Glock 21.

[JFootin]

It was probably 5 years ago.My friend and I were at a range renting some glocks and they had magsafe,glaser and cci shotshells in 9mm so we bought some of each and shot them.I think the load I used was called defender or something like that.The main thing I remember about the performance was they seemed loud compared to standard 9mm range ammo.They seemed accurate enough but my only complaint (at the time) was the price at almost $20 for 8 rounds I said it would cost $100 to fill the mags in a Glock 21.

Yeah. The price is a big turnoff. Definitely not range ammo! But I have a CM9, so one 8-pack would load it with one bullet left over. I have seen them for less than $15, almost $2 a bullet. You either have to be so rich it doesn't matter, or be very convinced that these bullets offer a unique advantage for self defense situations. Hmm.....

Thanks for your input, Mr. S!

[Bill K]

For years I've understood that Kel-Tec tells you not to use them in their P3ATs. I've seen for sure one documented KB with MagSafe and a P3AT. If I remember I'll check my owners manual for my P3AT to see what the manual has to say about ammo.

[JFootin]

For years I've understood that Kel-Tec tells you not to use them in their P3ATs. I've seen for sure one documented KB with MagSafe and a P3AT. If I remember I'll check my owners manual for my P3AT to see what the manual has to say about ammo.

Well, they have a 380 round called the MAX that is +p+. Kel-Tec doesn't approve the use of +p+ ammo in their guns. I think Kahr doesn't either. They have another round called the Defender that is standard pressure.