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Yes, why do people like the +P stuff over the standard velocity stuff in light concealed carry guns?
We live in a mild winter climate, so multi layers of clothing is rare. So for us IMHO +P ammo is over kill. I can't speak for other locations.
The biggest concern for us is controlled follow up shots. My biggest fear is if we have to draw and fire, no bystander gets hit. Using an IPSC target or a 6" steel plate, from a beep we can usually draw and fire from concealed carry in l.5 seconds, and hit C.O.M. from 10 yrds, with a +P round. The concern is what happens after that first shot.
As former IPSC competitors we know about shooting double taps and multiple targets with major power .45acp loads out of heavy 1911s and we know our split times. I seem to remember they were about .18 seconds
But for concealed carry we carry either lighter PM9s or K9s, and we practice double and triple taps.
We ran some tests with standard velocity and +P ammo to see how long it took to do follow up shots without spraying and praying. We used a Pact timer to time our splits between shots, after finding our front sight, and having fast accurate double and triple tap hits.
The times for us between +P and standard ammo was like night and day, out of the PM9s and almost as bad out of the K9s. We decided on fast, controlled, accurate hits over slow controlled hits. Oh don't forget about the adrenalin rush.
We did some ballistic testing some years back and here's the results
http://kahrtalk.com/showthread.php?t=11851
LET THE BASHING BEGIN !
We live in a mild winter climate, so multi layers of clothing is rare. So for us IMHO +P ammo is over kill. I can't speak for other locations.
The biggest concern for us is controlled follow up shots. My biggest fear is if we have to draw and fire, no bystander gets hit. Using an IPSC target or a 6" steel plate, from a beep we can usually draw and fire from concealed carry in l.5 seconds, and hit C.O.M. from 10 yrds, with a +P round. The concern is what happens after that first shot.
As former IPSC competitors we know about shooting double taps and multiple targets with major power .45acp loads out of heavy 1911s and we know our split times. I seem to remember they were about .18 seconds
But for concealed carry we carry either lighter PM9s or K9s, and we practice double and triple taps.
We ran some tests with standard velocity and +P ammo to see how long it took to do follow up shots without spraying and praying. We used a Pact timer to time our splits between shots, after finding our front sight, and having fast accurate double and triple tap hits.
The times for us between +P and standard ammo was like night and day, out of the PM9s and almost as bad out of the K9s. We decided on fast, controlled, accurate hits over slow controlled hits. Oh don't forget about the adrenalin rush.
We did some ballistic testing some years back and here's the results
http://kahrtalk.com/showthread.php?t=11851
LET THE BASHING BEGIN !
Jusst sayin.
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