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  • #61
    I never argue opinions. I try to present facts. The facts are that shot placement is far more important than bullet diameter or velocity. Two, to center mass, one to the head.
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    • #62
      well

      Originally posted by muggsy View Post
      I never argue opinions. I try to present facts. The facts are that shot placement is far more important than bullet diameter or velocity. Two, to center mass, one to the head.
      u certainly ruined my day, now we gotta talk "facts". WTF is that

      Last time I talked real facts was when I had a heart to heart talk with my dog about crapping on the floor. It was there right in front of him and yet he still did not understand the "facts". darn Muggsy, u had to bring facts into this forum. Now whats next??? Just sayin, next thing is ur gonna post that ur leaving the forum to start the new SHIELD forum.
      . My PM9 has over 34,000+ rounds through it, and runs much better than an illegal trying to get across our border


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      • #63
        Originally posted by barth View Post
        i've shot a box of federal hst 124 gr 9mm,
        speer gdhp 124 gr 9mm +p,
        and winchester ranger t-series 127 gr 9mm +p+
        out of a 4" barrel g27.
        and the perceptible difference in recoil, to me, was insignificant.

        handguns are under-powered by nature.
        Using the most powerful round you are proficient with just
        increases your chances of survival.
        +1!

        Originally posted by captain View Post
        i don't understand the "i don't practice with +p, so i won't carry it in my carry gun". But i will switch out my 40 caliber barrel in my glock for a 9mm because it's cheaper to shoot???? What's wrong with this picture?

        Trigger time is trigger time. Whether you use full power +p loads or milder ball ammunition, it all goes towards building the necessary repetitions needed to work your defensive firearm without having to consciously think about it when in a bad situation.

        +p ammunition performs way more consistently than standard presure ammo, even with all of the "newer technology" in bullet design. The amount of extra wear and tear on your firearm from using full power ammunition occasionally is negligible. I have a few guns that have over 50,000 rds thru them, mostly +p ammo and they all look and work great. Regular maintenance and periodic recoil spring changes go along way towards alleviating any isses of excessive wear. Enjoy your guns and pass them on to yout kids!
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        • #64
          Originally posted by jocko View Post
          u certainly ruined my day, now we gotta talk "facts". WTF is that

          Last time I talked real facts was when I had a heart to heart talk with my dog about crapping on the floor. It was there right in front of him and yet he still did not understand the "facts". darn Muggsy, u had to bring facts into this forum. Now whats next??? Just sayin, next thing is ur gonna post that ur leaving the forum to start the new SHIELD forum.
          Fact of the matter is Mugssy is right about shot placement,
          Fact-ual statistics will show that two to the body and one to the head is fatal
          Fact-ory ammo manufactured today is more reliable in any pressure
          Fact-oring the response I'm going to get I'm going to my room now

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