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  • #61
    Originally posted by swilcher7 View Post
    And I am well aware of the use of force continuum. And I am aware that each state has its own laws. Being involved in a fist fight here doesn't allow you too shoot someone because you are loosing. Not saying that is the case, just trying to show differences in laws.
    I would like your view of this scenario:

    You are walking down the street and some guy approx 28 years old for some unbeknownst reason to you has a problem with you. You try to avoid him and or talk him down but he suddenly then starts swinging at you. Would you draw your weapon and possibly pull on him or stay with fists or take a beating and hope your insurance and doctors can put you back together if you don't die from the assault. BTW you cannot outrun this young man.

    I am not tryi9ng to be flippant here. I really would like to get your input on this given your previous experiences esp as a LEO.
    I am the Living Man

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    • #62
      Myself, I would draw my weapon and keep it at the low ready position, and warn him. But here's where it gets tricky. If I point it at him and the DA decides your actions were not warranted in the situation, you can be charged criminally. Even in clear cut deadly force situations here, people have had to sit and wait for the DA to make a decision. That's PA state law for you. Now if someone drew a weapon, then I'm gonna do what I need to do to protect myself and others. No warning!! Oh I can honestly say things live this have happened to me (threats to beat my ass etc) I told said person here I am if that's what you need to do lets do this. Sometimes a little "verbal judo" goes a long way..

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      • #63
        Again we all have differences of opinion and I respect that!!

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        • #64
          Thanks Swilcher. I needed to get a feel for what others would do to gauge my response. Verbal judo is never part of my lexicon. I never want to do anything to escalate but I understand your position on that matter clearly.
          I am the Living Man

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          • #65
            No problem. Just remember you gotta follow the rules in your home state. Hopefully we all can stay safe out there!!

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            • #66
              TheTMan...THANK YOU!!! That was what I was trying to put across. You can't judge a whole race by the bad actions of a few!!

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              • #67
                if I were the prosecution, I wouldn't want this presented either.

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                • #68
                  To many if, an's and maybe's going on here. Hey mods, why not close this second quessing section down till the darn trail is over.

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by knkali View Post
                    I would like your view of this scenario:

                    You are walking down the street and some guy approx 28 years old for some unbeknownst reason to you has a problem with you. You try to avoid him and or talk him down but he suddenly then starts swinging at you. Would you draw your weapon and possibly pull on him or stay with fists or take a beating and hope your insurance and doctors can put you back together if you don't die from the assault. BTW you cannot outrun this young man.

                    I am not tryi9ng to be flippant here. I really would like to get your input on this given your previous experiences esp as a LEO.
                    I'm too old to fight, too crippled to run, but I can still do five pound curls with my index finger. Does that answer your question?
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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by swilcher7 View Post
                      No problem. Just remember you gotta follow the rules in your home state. Hopefully we all can stay safe out there!!
                      There is only one law in this situation and that's the law of the jungle. Kill or be killed. If your gun clears your holster you had better be prepared to use it. Your attacker won't hesitate to use his.
                      Never trust anyone who doesn't trust you to own a gun.

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                      • #71
                        Originally posted by hardluk1 View Post
                        To many if, an's and maybe's going on here. Hey mods, why not close this second quessing section down till the darn trail is over.
                        Getting close. Might be over tomorrow. Now if we can just get the poser and chief out of the white house and in prison where he belongs for a start, we can get back to what we're good at, talking guns, and happy things.
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                        Dietrich: For a fat girl you sure don't sweat much.
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                        • #72
                          Originally posted by muggsy View Post
                          I'm too old to fight, too crippled to run, but I can still do five pound curls with my index finger. Does that answer your question?
                          I love you Muggs
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                          • #73
                            Originally posted by knkali View Post
                            I love you Muggs
                            Seriously? Mano, mano? No smiley, no parameters. I'm mildly concerned.

                            In the immortal words of our man Dietrich, you feel the urge to grease yourself up and get tossed over a prison fence?
                            http://bawanna45.wix.com/bawannas-grip-emporium#!
                            In Memory of Paul "Dietrich" Stines.
                            Dad: Say something nice to your cousin Shirley
                            Dietrich: For a fat girl you sure don't sweat much.
                            Cue sound of Head slap.

                            RIP Muggsy & TMan

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                            • #74
                              Originally posted by Bawanna View Post
                              Seriously? Mano, mano? No smiley, no parameters. I'm mildly concerned.

                              In the immortal words of our man Dietrich, you feel the urge to grease yourself up and get tossed over a prison fence?
                              I am the Living Man

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                              • #75
                                Originally posted by Bawanna View Post
                                Now if we can just get the poser and chief out of the white house and in prison where he belongs for a start, we can get back to what we're good at, talking guns, and happy things.
                                Ahh... and lots of cheap ammo on the shelves. I can see it now.
                                The only thing better than having all the guns and ammo you'd ever need would be being able to shoot it all off the back porch.

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